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I just spent the last hour calculating how many people are in hell according to establishment christian theology


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#1 PhillyB

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:08 PM

I have used statistics from PRB (population reference bureau) to assemble a model of human proliferation based on a ~7,000 year old earth (in accordance with young-earth population models clung to by establishment Christian circles.

Then, adjusting for this understanding, I calculated the percentage of humans who, across time, would have fit the current establishment evangelical church's model of salvation that determine's one's place in eternity (namely, heaven or hell.)

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Dates ........................... Births .................. Humans Not Meeting Salvation Requirements

7000BC - AD1 ..............9,205,066,470........................9,020,965,141
AD1 - 1200 ..............26,591,343,000........................19,943,507,250
1200 - 1650..............12,782,002,453........................10,270,722,355
1650 - 1750..............3,171,931,513...........................2,854,738,362
1750 - 1850..............4,046,240,009...........................3,641,616,008
1850 - 1900..............2,900,237,856..........................2,465,202,178
1900 - 1950..............3,390,198,215...........................2,881,668,483
1950 - 1995..............5,427,305,000..........................4,938,847,550
1995 - 2011..............2,130,327.622..........................1,959,901,412


Total Humans in Hell: 57,977,108,739



My methodology was extremely liberal (which probably means I'll be in hell too amirite?) and if one accounts for humans starting at 50,000BC instead of 7,000 the total number of humans that have ever existed jumps to 107,602,707,791, of which only roughly half are in hell (the actual number, judging by the explicitness of establishment evangelical chistianity's definitions of salvific measures, would be far, far higher. 57 billion looks pretty damn benevolent by comparison.)

Anyway I'm not really sure how much there is to discuss about this but I'm bored at work so there you have it

#2 Brokenbad

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:14 PM

I pretty much figured Christians thought everyone beside themselves were going to hell.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:36 PM

There are better ways to waste an hour.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:38 PM

everybody with a cursory understanding of time knows its 55 billion. i'm am moved by your passion, but i don't follow your math.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:51 PM

everybody with a cursory understanding of time knows its 55 billion. i'm am moved by your passion, but i don't follow your math.


55 billion in hell? or 55 billion people that've ever existed? (or were you being sarcastic? haha)

the entirety of my claim rests upon data from PRB and this chart:



How Many People Have Ever Lived On Earth? 108 Billion Year Population Births per 1,000 Births Between Benchmarks 50,000 B.C. 2 - - 8000 B.C. 5,000,000 80 1,137,789,769 1 A.D. 300,000,000 80 46,025,332,354 1200 450,000,000 60 26,591,343,000 1650 500,000,000 60 12,782,002,453 1750 795,000,000 50 3,171,931,513 1850 1,265,000,000 40 4,046,240,009 1900 1,656,000,000 40 2,900,237,856 1950 2,516,000,000 31-38 3,390,198,215 1995 5,760,000,000 31 5,427,305,000 2011 6,987,000,000 23 2,130,327,622
NUMBER WHO HAVE EVER BEEN BORN 107,602,707,791 World population in mid-2011 6,987,000,000 Percent of those ever born who are living in 2011 6.5




My methods are largely speculative (with most of the conjecture being based on what percentages of the birth numbers would've reflected individuals with a theology mirroring currently-accepted salvation standards using understanding of religious diasporas globally for each of the given eras. this incredibly speculative nature is what has led me to be extremely liberal with the numbers, which is why the final number is so low compared to the overall historical population.)


edit: that chart looked great when i copied it in but now it looks like poo. go to the link at the top of the page to check out what it actually looks like

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:11 PM

You need that newborn so you will have a better way to spend your time.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:20 PM

You need that newborn so you will have a better way to spend your time.


you don't think these are important questions?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:27 PM

Basketball, combine, racing, Saturday. "just spent the last hour surmising how many people are in hell"

Maybe a better effort would be putting yourself in the location of choice upon expiration, rather than being a census taker.

Course I know you are not convinced at all there is such a destination, which makes the hour long effort all the more puzzling.

Diapers will take care of your down time very shortly my friend.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:47 PM

I think your bar needs a little more business. LOL

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:48 PM

Basketball, combine, racing, Saturday. "just spent the last hour surmising how many people are in hell"

Maybe a better effort would be putting yourself in the location of choice upon expiration, rather than being a census taker.

Course I know you are not convinced at all there is such a destination, which makes the hour long effort all the more puzzling.

Diapers will take care of your down time very shortly my friend.


thanks for again pretending to be a poster composed of thoughtful substance and the willingness to engage in an open dialogue about the core of an issue and then proceeding to ignore all the core issues at hand with useless platitudes and the artful dodging of earnest inquiry

#11 stirs

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:10 PM

Making light of Chritianity is not for some, an earnest inquiry. You said yourself that there was not much to discuss.

If however you mask a more pertinent inquiry by the excercise this afternoon, then maybe a conversation can be had.
Signed, the Artful Dodger

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:56 PM

who's making light of it? 57B ppl in hell is pretty dark. it raises a lot of serious theological implications. i'm sure you can see that

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 09:57 PM

You're going to hell Philly ;)

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:02 PM

How many went the other way?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 10:30 PM

You must be really really bored. :)


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