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A 2nd Round WR & our BPA Strategy

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This WR group is getting more interesting by the day. We know both Gettleman and Rivera stressed the need for playmakers so I'm sure we're taking a look at most of them.

Below I've made a list of the top-10 or so of the wideout class. At first, you'd have to imagine at least 2 from the top two tiers will be available by the time we pick in the 2nd but it may not be so. The bottom line: If Patterson is gone by the time we pick #14, a lot can happen before #44. So, who will realistically still be available? Let's look at the crop from my perspective (3 tiers):


Cordarrelle[i] [/i]Patterson [b]x[/b]
Tavon Austin [b]x[/b]

[i]Justin Hunter[/i]
[i]Keenan Allen [/i]
[i]DeAndre Hopkins[/i]
[i]Terrance Williams[/i]
[i]Quinton Patton[/i]

Markus Wheaton
Robert Woods
Marquise Goodwin
Da'Rick Rodgers
Cobi Hamilton
Stedman Bailey


Now consider the teams that could need a WR between our picks: (R1) Texans, Seahawks, Vikings, Steelers, Patriots (R2) Cardinals, Bills, Jets...that's at least 8 teams off the top of my head that could use a WR at the top of the draft and I could list a few more.

A few questions:

Who could realistically be available in the 2nd round? Who's gonna actually be there from that middle-tier above?, because I think they could all be gone. Ideally, I'd love to see someone from that group being drafted by us in the 2nd.

Right now, I think Allen and Hunter are definitely gone. Possibly Patton, Hopkins and T-Will. So where does the talent really drop off to where we are better just waiting because our BPA could very well be at another position like Philip Thomas, Bakhtiari, or Brandon Williams? You have the likes of Vernon/Fuller/Stills/King later in the 4th.

So, would anyone beyond the top-7 be worth it in the 2nd? or are we better off waiting?

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I really would not mind taking Patterson at 14, then Rambo with our second pick, rest of the draft go BPA

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[quote name='SOJA' timestamp='1361737934' post='2143321']
I really would not mind taking Patterson at 14, then Rambo with our second pick, rest of the draft go BPA
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I was posting this under the impression Patterson would be gone which is quite likely imo.

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I think we should take Travon Austin with our 14th pick if Patterson isn't there because our team drafts by bast available player and I think at the time Travon wull be at the top but if we dont take him in the first then we should take Robert Woods

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Can anyone here read or type?

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Travon will be on the board went the panthers pick and I'm foreshore

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[quote name='Snow' timestamp='1361738013' post='2143322']
I was posting this under the impression Patterson would be gone which is quite likely imo.
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If that's the case then yes I'd be much more inclined to wait till the second to take a receiver than reach in the first

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[quote name='SOJA' timestamp='1361739057' post='2143344']

If that's the case then yes I'd be much more inclined to wait till the second to take a receiver than reach in the first
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Again, not the point of my post, that was the given going into it.

There are 30 spots between our picks. The 2nd round names people keep throwing around could ALL potentially be gone. So at what point are we better off waiting until the later rounds if the top guys go before 44? There's a lot of WR needy teams between our picks.

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[quote name='Snow' timestamp='1361739421' post='2143351']
Again, not the point of my post, that was the given going into it.

There are 30 spots between our picks. The 2nd round names people keep throwing around could ALL potentially be gone. So at what point are we better off waiting until the later rounds if the top guys go before 44? There's a lot of WR needy teams between our picks.
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so you listed 8 teams that need a receiver and think because of that all of them will draft one? Yes there is always the potential that none of those 2nd tier are receivers are there by our pick, but statistics and previous drafts dictate that there will likely be 3 or 4 of those to choose from


also I doubt Austin is going before 14, a fast 40 time doesn't mean that much unless you're al davis

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[quote name='SOJA' timestamp='1361739839' post='2143356']
so you listed 8 teams that need a receiver and think because of that all of them will draft one? Yes there is always the potential that none of those 2nd tier are receivers are there by our pick, but statistics and previous drafts dictate that there will likely be 3 or 4 of those to choose from
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I listed teams that could potentially take one for added perspective. I'm assuming Austin will have no chance in hell being there in round 2. I'm asking at what point does the class drop off to where you wouldn't take from the crop available in round 2. It's rather open ended.

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Id be ok with woods in the second.

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Da'Rick Rogers and DeAndre Hopkins will probably be the only two good receivers available for us in the second round. If that is the case (unless we trade our first round pick and pick up an earlier second), we should draft Rambo in the second, and draft receiver in the later rounds.
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We are not drafting Austin, panthers need to get bigger and faster at receiver. Not smaller, we have already got smaller fast receivers that can develop.

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Patterson and Keenan are the only two receivers worthy at 14. If Patterson is gone, I personally would go with Floyd, Vaccaro, Richardson, or Jesse at 14.

Hopkins, Rogers, Hunter, Twill, Patton, and Woods are worth it at 44. If not, I'd go with Eifert or Ertz if either one of them fell that far. After those guys, I'd go BPA.

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[quote name='CPF4LIFE' timestamp='1361741781' post='2143394']
We are not drafting Austin, panthers need to get bigger and faster at receiver. Not smaller, we have already got smaller fast receivers that can develop.
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THIS!
As much as I love Austin, we ain't taking him.

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Realistic you are right, by the time we get to the 44th pick a lot of the good wr's will be gone. The top 7 should be gone specially if there is a run on wr's before our pick. Of the once listed on the bottom Bailey and Wheaton would be the only 2 I would think at 44. Goodwin is a track star not a good wr.
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[quote name='Squirrel' timestamp='1361742590' post='2143415']
Realistic you are right, by the time we get to the 44th pick a lot of the good wr's will be gone. The top 7 should be gone specially if there is a run on wr's before our pick. Of the once listed on the bottom Bailey and Wheaton would be the only 2 I would think at 44. Goodwin is a track star not a good wr.
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Yep, we are definitely in the same line of thinking here.

5 wideouts went between 14 & 44 last year and that was a poor draft at the position: Wright, AJ Jenkins, Quick, Hill, Jeffery. Yikes. The names people keep throwing around for R2 could very well be mia by the time we go.

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[quote name='Snow' timestamp='1361743969' post='2143433']

Yep, we are definitely in the same line of thinking here.

5 wideouts went between 14 & 44 last year and that was a poor draft at the position: Wright, AJ Jenkins, Quick, Hill, Jeffery. Yikes. The names people keep throwing around for R2 could very well be mia by the time we go.
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Good thing is if there is a run on Wr's in the late first then a lot of talented people will drop down into the 2nd. Would be tempting to move up for a talented player that slipped.

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yeah love goodwin but only would take him if i was set at the wr position or if i got two wr....which the panthers aint doing. but he should be there


realistically these few guys might be there at 44 too..

darick rodgers

kenny stills

tavarress king

ryan swope

corey fuller

robert woods

cobi hamilton

stedman bailey

aaron dobson



i like king and rodgers the most.....

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I wouldnt mind Ryan swope in the 4th if he there if all those guys are gone. He ran a 4.3 and would be an immediate upgrade in the slot

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DeAndre Hawkins in rd2 would make me poo my pants. I also like Da'Rick Rodgers there too... either of them, I would love to have at #44

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The way I see us drafting is the following.


1st BPA
2nd WR
4th CB/S/OG (most likely og)

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stills and woods if there is a run on WRs.

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[quote name='Actionman0z' timestamp='1361749583' post='2143549']
DeAndre Hawkins in rd2 would make me poo my pants. I also like Da'Rick Rodgers there too... either of them, I would love to have at #44
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I have seen "Stadman", "Corradell" and now "Hawkins". Who's all these guys I never heard of before

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