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#25 lightsout

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

If not Patterson, we BETTER be going with Austin. This is all assuming Warmack is gone (and I think he will be). Need a sure thing at WR. Gotta go after the big time playmakers.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:32 PM

Outside of being short and fast, Austin could be compared to a lot of other guys not named Harvin. Harvin is built like a runningback. A lot more stout, tougher runner. Austin will run around you whereas Harvin runs through you.

I do like Austin a lot though. But not at #14. Some people are beginning to overrate him. If you didn't want him at #14 before the combine, wanting him now means you either for some reason doubted his speed or put too much stock in the 40. Austin will be a solid player but I still wouldn't consider him one of the 3 best receivers in this draft.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:49 AM

  • 5'8"HEIGHT
  • 30"ARM LENGTH
  • 174LBS.WEIGHT
  • 9 1/8"HANDS




OVERVIEW

The Mountaineers have had a dangerous spread offense since Rich Rodriguez led the team, but have moved from a run-based system (ranked third in the FBS in rushing in 2007) to a pass-based spread (ranked sixth nationally in passing in 2011, 10th in 2012). A huge part of the offensive success the Mountaineers have enjoyed over the last two seasons is due to the talent of Austin. A small but quick and elusive playmaker, Austin’s role and impact grew seemingly by the week during his senior season, as he went from a slot returner and returner to a fully fledged Swiss-Army knife, including lining up in the backfield and taking handoffs,


The two-time Maryland high school player of the year set all kinds of state career and single-season records, a large share of which (34 touchdowns, 2,660 rushing yards -- that’s 12.2 yards a carry) as a senior. WVU coaches couldn’t wait to get him on the field, playing him in all 13 games and starting him in four. He caught 15 passes for 151 yards and a touchdown while racking up 476 kick return yards (including taking the opening kickoff against Connecticut 98 yards for a score). Big East coaches named him second-team all-conference in 2010 as he became a larger part of the passing game (58-787, 8 TD) and rushing attack (15-159, TD), but kicked him up to first team as a receiver (101-1,186, 8 TD) and returner (36 attempts for 938 yards, two TD on kickoffs; 19-268 on punts, ranked sixth in the FBS with a 14.1 yard average) after an excellent junior season. He led the FBS in all-purpose yards once his 182 rushing yards (one TD) were added in, and finished 2011 with 390 all-purpose yards and four touchdowns in the team’s 70-33 blowout win over Clemson in the Orange Bowl.


Austin burst into Heisman contention during his senior season with a 572 all-purpose yard (second most in FBS history) performance against Oklahoma on national television. Austin’s full repertoire was on display, as he caught 4 passes for 82 yards, rushed 21 times for 344 yards and two touchdowns, and 146 kick return yards. His senior season saw him total career highs in y.f.s. (1932), all receiving categories (112-1289-12 TDs), and rushing (72-643-3 TDs), as well as 978 return yards and two touchdowns. His dominating play saw him finish eighth in Heisman voting, win the Paul Hornung Award (most versatile player), and garner a first-team All-America as an All-Purpose player.
ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS
Slot receiver possessing elite acceleration with the ball in his hands, takes advantage of available lanes to explode for big gains. Shows excellent vision both as a runner out of the backfield, as a returner, and as a receiver with the ball in his hands. Almost unstoppable at continue on for additional yardage. Not a frail receiver; plays tough, has some upper-body thickness, and bounces up quickly from hits. Varies the speed of his route, lulls defenders to sleep and takes off to create space on out routes or over the middle. Tough to grab after the catch in zone coverage. Flashes the hands to adjust to wide or high passes, as well as tracking balls over his shoulder. Also goes down to grab low throws. Displays excellent balance to tightrope the sideline. Often used on fly sweeps, using his elite quickness and acceleration to cut inside or get the corner for big plays. Finds space as a kickoff returner to use his speed, will head straight upfield and can spin off tackles in the open field to maximize the return. Can make the first man miss on punt returns and has the vision to slalom between players to the sideline or up the middle. Very difficult to track down from behind. Wins at every level of the field despite his size, and has been somewhat underutilized deep. Improved as a blocker, and will body up on bigger players.
WEAKNESSES
Limited to the slot on most plays; lacks the size and strength most scouts prefer outside, or even as a kick returner. Hands are good, but not exceptional; will let some hot passes through his small hands and into his chest. Gets a lot of his yardage on shallow crosses, quick throws outside, and the fly sweep/"touch pass." Might not have the chance to get the sideline as often at the next level, forcing him to lower the shoulder and get what’s available to him inside. Must prove he can hang onto the ball after taking big hits from NFL defenders. Will hesitate on punt and kick returns at times instead of immediately accelerating or trusting his blocking, and can get tripped up easily on contact. Incredible balance and stop/start ability, but he might not have elite straight line speed.
NFL COMPARISON
Randall Cobb
BOTTOM LINE
Don’t blink when Austin has the ball in his hands, as his elite acceleration helped him finish second in the country in all-purpose yards as a senior and lead the FBS as a junior. Don’t be surprised if he turns out to be a first round pick or the first wide receiver off the board, as he is a huge playmaker on offense and special teams in the NFL despite the slight build that scared scouts away from other WVU offensive stars in the past.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:22 AM

The more I watch of this kid the more he impresses. He would undoubtedly add some much needed versatility to this offense. He would be lethal in the slot, running the read/speed option, running jet sweeps and reverses... just a flat out play maker and if he gets in the open field look out. Also, would finally give us lethal kick returner but I'm not sure we would risk him getting injured if we invest a 14th pick in him.

Yes he size isn't ideal but Austin is a home run threat much like Patterson when he gets the football in his hands. If he's a good route runner and can find holes in a defense he will move the chains and take passes to the house. Mayock is extremely high on him as well. He is the definition of a match up nightmare. It would be comical watching a 3rd CB or linebacker try to cover this kid never mind get their hands on him once he makes the catch.

At this point I'm just glad we have many great options at 14.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:35 AM

Jesus christ, why are you so butthurt about that comment? for that fact, why does everyone get so butthurt around here now?

You know who else stared down receivers badly in college? Cam Newton. he threw a lot of picks his rookie year too. does it mean I said he sucked? no it doesn't. Calm the crap down and get over yourself. And yes I understand the irony of the whole butthurt comment, but I can only handle so much chirldishniss. this whole "I don't agree with you so you are obviously retarded" mentality is turrible for these forums and any healthy debate/conversation people can have here.

The only down side of Geno is he refuses to use his 4.56 athletic ability for fear of being labeled a running QB. It's kind of sad what the media does to the Psyche of young athletically gifted young men. Which kind of work in his favor because he got to hone his passing skill before going pro, so he is now a bigger threat if he runs.

To Cam 's defense, he's been throwing to a 5"8' guy as his primary target.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:40 AM

As for me, like always, I am going to trust that the suits will pick an impact player at 14. If they think that Tavon Austin is worth going that high and is one of the top three WRs in the draft, then who am I to question that? We have made solid picks in the first overall, and Gettleman should only secure that status quo. Now, in regards to the Youtube eye test, I think that there is a good possibility that he could be worth the call because he is a legitimate play-maker---i.e., he is a take it to the house type of WR, smallish or not. My only concern would be his durability, which of course is a big concern. If Cordarelle Patterson is gone to the Jets (or some opportunistic vulture that slides in), I would give Austin a hard look if I was bent on a picking a WR. With all respect, Keenan Allen seems more like a run-of-the-mill possession guy, and I am not sure he would have more impact than Brandon LaFell.

To the OP's point, I don't see him as Percy Harvin 2.0 because he is just too small. I do see him as a stouter version of DeSean Jackson, but if he can play anywhere near Harvin's ability he would be a no-brainer.



BTW, this thread seems like it should be merged with the other Tavon thread.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:56 AM

As for me, like always, I am going to trust that the suits will pick an impact player at 14. If they think that Tavon Austin is worth going that high and is one of the top three WRs in the draft, then who am I to question that? We have made solid picks in the first overall, and Gettleman should only secure that status quo. Now, in regards to the Youtube eye test, I think that there is a good possibility that he could be worth the call because he is a legitimate play-maker---i.e., he is a take it to the house type of WR, smallish or not. My only concern would be his durability, which of course is a big concern. If Cordarelle Patterson is gone to the Jets (or some opportunistic vulture that slides in), I would give Austin a hard look if I was bent on a picking a WR. With all respect, Keenan Allen seems more like a run-of-the-mill possession guy, and I am not sure he would have more impact than Brandon LaFell.

To the OP's point, I don't see him as Percy Harvin 2.0 because he is just too small. I do see him as a stouter version of DeSean Jackson, but if he can play anywhere near Harvin's ability he would be a no-brainer.



BTW, this thread seems like it should be merged with the other Tavon thread.


Agree with everything, except Keenan Allen. Keenan is great at running routes and finding the soft zones in coverages, something Lafell has yet to master. Allen is a heady player.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:23 PM

man hes slow...if that dumb dude would have went for the tackle instead of trying to knock the ball out allen would have not scored lol

never liked him....seems like an avg guy....lol no way is he on desean jackson level coming out.......dudes a chump compared to jackson. :thumbsd:


You must have missed my comment about Boldin running a 4.7. He went in the 2nd round and look how his career turned out. I can guarantee Keenan is faster than Boldin

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:35 PM

You must have missed my comment about Boldin running a 4.7. He went in the 2nd round and look how his career turned out. I can guarantee Keenan is faster than Boldin



lol i know im going to do a little writeup on this matter in a minute....speed is not the end all be all when it comes to wr.....guess i just was expecting more because everyone was bragging how he was the best wr.....

not only does he lacks speed but he looks avg running routes to me. he catches very well but does not do much in open space.....but yeah will see how does in the nfl.