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How about cutting Beason instead of Willliams.


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#16 TheRumGone

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:52 PM

He's done a great job so far... Honestly didn't expect this since he was supposedly not a cap guy but what he says makes sense talking about not only thinking about this season but further cap situations as well

he hasn't got to the meat and potatoes yet, just small stuff. I think we'll be good though, love his attitude about the future.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:54 PM

Tough to keep paying guys so much for so little....when big picture your team as a whole gets handicapped bc of it.

Teams eat money all the time. Worth it often....big picture.

Williams' deal as of now is on pace to be probably the 2nd worst in Panther history


Behind Delhomme's? I would argue Beason, at least dlo has seen the field.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

Behind Delhomme's? I would argue Beason, at least dlo has seen the field.


Behind Delhomme's....

But yeah, Beason has potential as well...heck, he could jump to the one spot bc his deal is harder to get out of.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:01 PM

Technically he did something.....he hasn't touched any of the problems yet. Nothing done to suggest he is good or bad.

Fair enough

he hasn't got to the meat and potatoes yet, just small stuff. I think we'll be good though, love his attitude about the future.

Agreed about his attitude towards the future

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:10 PM

Cut em both.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:12 PM

Agreed about his attitude towards the future


How i will really judge him is what he does with DeAngelo, Gross and Beason. I have faith in him though. Kalil, Naka, and Stewart were good starts, but those contracts need work.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:16 PM

Beason tore his achilles, which takes a good 18-24 months to return to proper form from

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:38 PM

They aren't cutting Beason or Dwill. They will probably restructure both. Beason will move outside, stew and Dwill will continue to split carries. Such is life as a panthers fan.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:41 PM

They aren't cutting Beason or Dwill. They will probably restructure both. Beason will move outside, stew and Dwill will continue to split carries. Such is life as a panthers fan.


You realize splitting carries now vs 2008 is totally different....for those 2. Tolbert and Cam will get there reps as they are better than Double Trouble in many key spots.

They are both paid to account for close to 70% of a teams rushing yardage...

I think the new GM will bring the NYG mindset here....and that isn't keep on keepin on

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:51 PM

You realize splitting carries now vs 2008 is totally different....for those 2. Tolbert and Cam will get there reps as they are better than Double Trouble in many key spots.

They are both paid to account for close to 70% of a teams rushing yardage...

I think the new GM will bring the NYG mindset here....and that isn't keep on keepin on


May be he brings the NYG mindset down the road but right now he understands what you obviously don't. Cutting Wiliams or Beason given their current contracts borders on lunacy. It won't happen and saying it over and over won't make it true. The only way it does happen is if we can't agree on the restructures and in that case it will be the players fault as well.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:55 PM

You realize splitting carries now vs 2008 is totally different....for those 2. Tolbert and Cam will get there reps as they are better than Double Trouble in many key spots.

They are both paid to account for close to 70% of a teams rushing yardage...

I think the new GM will bring the NYG mindset here....and that isn't keep on keepin on


You are the one living in the past. Gettleman 2 days ago said that Newton will be staying in the pocket (that means he won't be running much at all except on broken plays) and Tolbert was used primarily in the red zone. We are going to a more power running game circa 2008. We surely may throw more but this offense is going to look a whole lot like 2008 with a better passing game. Cam and Tolbert together won't account for 40% of the rushing this year. Wait and see........................

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:02 PM

May be he brings the NYG mindset down the road but right now he understands what you obviously don't. Cutting Wiliams or Beason given their current contracts borders on lunacy. It won't happen and saying it over and over won't make it true. The only way it does happen is if we can't agree on the restructures and in that case it will be the players fault as well.


Again, when the new GM makes his moves and we start the 2013 season you can then state he believes X and Y.....

You don't know what the heck he is going to do to this current roster.....prior to the 2013 season. You keep stating his beliefs are yours heading into this upcoming year....which is an impossible statement to make. Maybe in the next 3 weeks
we will learn his approach to all this

Cutting Williams certainly is realistic....which is why so many who aren't Panther fans and report on the NFL keep talking about it....

Beason is a different ball of wax....

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:02 PM

You are the one living in the past. Gettleman 2 days ago said that Newton will be staying in the pocket (that means he won't be running much at all except on broken plays) and Tolbert was used primarily in the red zone. We are going to a more power running game circa 2008. We surely may throw more but this offense is going to look a whole lot like 2008 with a better passing game. Cam and Tolbert together won't account for 40% of the rushing this year. Wait and see........................

While i agree with you it is ultimately Rivera and Shula's call, not Gettleman. Gettleman puts the players on the field, the coaches run the players. Although, CRA will be eating crow about one of double trouble. I don't want us to keep both backs, but i know the reality of the situation.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:06 PM

You are the one living in the past. Gettleman 2 days ago said that Newton will be staying in the pocket (that means he won't be running much at all except on broken plays) and Tolbert was used primarily in the red zone. We are going to a more power running game circa 2008. We surely may throw more but this offense is going to look a whole lot like 2008 with a better passing game. Cam and Tolbert together won't account for 40% of the rushing this year. Wait and see........................


Last time I checked...the new GM isn't our play caller. Last GM obviously thought we would be doing X when we did Y as well.

Cam Newton is a runner. Be it by design or not....it is what he does naturally and nearly effortless. He will continue to be a key cog in our ground attack....wait and see.

Offense will resemble 2011 more than 2008 IMO...Shula like every other OC of late will adapt to his athletic QB. We aren't going to see a Jeff Davidson/Fox offense.

Rivera is banking on Cam....and Cam not Chud brought the read option to Carolina. Rivera is going to keep Cam comfortable.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

Last time I checked...the new GM isn't our play caller. Last GM obviously thought we would be doing X when we did Y as well.

Cam Newton is a runner. Be it by design or not....it is what he does naturally and nearly effortless. He will continue to be a key cog in our ground attack....wait and see.

Offense will resemble 2011 more than 2008 IMO...

Rivera is banking on Cam....and Cam not Chud brought the read option to Carolina. Rivera is going to keep Cam comfortable.



The management tree goes Owner/GM/Coach for a reason.
It's pretty obvious there was a disconnect the last couple of years between the way Hurney stacked the roster and how Rivera and/or Chudzinski utilized that roster on Gamedays.

If the GM wants Cam in the pocket because he is invaluable to this Franchise in the long term our idiot Head Coach better pay attention.
Or expect to be in the unemployment line sooner rather than later.


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