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#61 Udogg

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:43 AM

Bottom line...

it makes a grand total of ZERO sense to cut Deangelo Williams. A restructure works in his case. And more importantly it gives the current GM a chance to put his fingerprints on the organization. So far Gettelman has started to lay the ground work for getting us out of Hurneys attempt at "full retard".

Restructure the guys we have to alleviate some cap pressure, fill a couple holes via free agency, draft BPA, have a strong season next year to lessen the blow when we finally make the "tough" call to cut some long standing members of the panther family.

And I didn't even break a sweat.


I think most of the huddlers are along this line of thinking. Of course there will be some vocal dissenters....

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

double derp

Comparing Cam to RGIII is lazy. Just like it was with Vick.

RGIII is a lightly built player, with a magnet to contact, injured, with okay vision.....that was him in college. Same holds true as a pro.

That isn't Newton. He is a tank....great at selectively taking contact.....great vision. When was the last time he missed a game b/c of injury? Please go back a ways....

Black guy who runs doesn't = another black guy who runs.

Cam has always been a signifcantly better runner than RGIII. Don't let the track speed cloud things.



Whatev, read P55's sig, better yet . Read it twice.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:48 AM

Whatev, read P55's sig, better yet . Read it twice.

derp.

Don't be derping if you can't voice a clear stance

#64 L-TownCat

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:06 AM

But....... But....... But

2 years ago Hurney paid him too much and we need to keep bitching until Williams is finally gone. How dare you try to bring reason and logic to this discussion and make it about Gettleman instead of Hurney.............


I'm not being ignorant here am I? This whole cut DWill thing just blows my mind. Beason too as a matter of fact. The contracts are too deadly to outright cut even as a June 1st cut. Why is that so hard to understand?

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:54 PM

I'm not being ignorant here am I? This whole cut DWill thing just blows my mind. Beason too as a matter of fact. The contracts are too deadly to outright cut even as a June 1st cut. Why is that so hard to understand?


Exactly. people want to constantly complain about what we should have done or that we wasted money in 2011 without looking at the reality of the present. Right now cutting Willliams makes much less sense than trying tto restructure him so we get cap relief and we avoid further cap hell down the road. Anyone who thinks we can waste 1/20 of the cap in dead cap space on one player is delusional at best.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:07 PM

How about no... Beason will finally be playing at the position he's best suited for.

A Beason/Kuechly/Anderson/Davis LB corp will be something to marvel at.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:22 PM



Whatev, read P55's sig, better yet . Read it twice.


Nice rebuttal.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:29 PM

Exactly. people want to constantly complain about what we should have done or that we wasted money in 2011 without looking at the reality of the present. Right now cutting Willliams makes much less sense than trying tto restructure him so we get cap relief and we avoid further cap hell down the road. Anyone who thinks we can waste 1/20 of the cap in dead cap space on one player is delusional at best.


If doesn't take a paycut....he should be cut. Bottom line.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:32 PM

how about cut/restructure both

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:43 PM

If doesn't take a paycut....he should be cut. Bottom line.


It doesn't work that way. Paying him hs money and keeping a good player is cheaper than cutting him, tying up dead money in cap and signing someone else to fill the roster spot. Oh and who are you gonna fill the roster spot with because he damn sure better be as good at his position as deangelo.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:52 PM

It doesn't work that way. Paying him hs money and keeping a good player is cheaper than cutting him, tying up dead money in cap and signing someone else to fill the roster spot. Oh and who are you gonna fill the roster spot with because he damn sure better be as good at his position as deangelo.


It certainly can work that way.....that is exactly what Nnamdi is being told in Philly.

Williams is good....overrated though. Not worth his check here. Most of that isn't his fault but still a reality.

A solid S > Williams for example....when looking at the overall good of the team. Makes the collective team better. That S doesn't have to be better than him in a vacuum.

Solid S plays every snap at a huge weakness. Williams carries can be split and taken by VERY good runners.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:31 PM

If doesn't take a paycut....he should be cut. Bottom line.


If he isn't restructured he will be cut as a June 1st.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:39 PM

How about no... Beason will finally be playing at the position he's best suited for.

A Beason/Kuechly/Anderson/Davis LB corp will be something to marvel at.

You will not be able to keep both Anderson/Beason.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:41 PM

It certainly can work that way.....that is exactly what Nnamdi is being told in Philly.

Williams is good....overrated though. Not worth his check here. Most of that isn't his fault but still a reality.

A solid S > Williams for example....when looking at the overall good of the team. Makes the collective team better. That S doesn't have to be better than him in a vacuum.

Solid S plays every snap at a huge weakness. Williams carries can be split and taken by VERY good runners.


Actually safeties don't take half of the snaps of the team. Secondly they aren't involved in every defensive play for example if they are lined up in cover 2 on a running play. Thirdly we have safeties who came in and were decent when Nakumura went to the bench and we will be picking up another one or two in the draft or free agency. A starting running back and a starting or back-up free safety have little in common.

Comparing Williams value to a safeties value as if they are related at all is ridiculous The whole we should cut Williams and use the money on a safety was a stupid argument when you made it. Going further down the road with it makes no more sense than before. Williams is an electric game changer who scores points and moves the ball. A free safety might get 1 or 2 picks a year and at best doesn't screw up or give up the long pass. We aren't talking Ed Reed here.

Running backs play less downs than a defensive starter but they play less than a right guard as well. Anyone think that we should dump Williams to add a back-up right guard?? Running backs are impact players who are valued for what they do to change a game. Offensive guards and free safeties if they are doing their job don't call attention to themselves by screwing up.

And no I am not going to debate this on and on, just wanted you know that there are those of us out there who don't think the argument has any legs so don't keep parading it out there as if it is a fact.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:49 PM

You will not be able to keep both Anderson/Beason.

Anderson is cheap for a starting LB and Beason can't really be cut. We will likely restructure them. But most likely they will both be on the team.


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