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I'm shocked that you arent a fan of sin tax.

But fat people cost the government more than thin people in terms of health care costs, and fat people also consume more soda. The link between sugar and diabetes is pretty fuging clear, maybe this societal cost should be including in the cost of your sugar water?

Hummmm wait, so you are saying that programs that the federal government put into place to "help" people, is costing us a ton of money?

Now instead of changing the first program, we just need another program to help keep people off the first program?

Yes....more legislation, more money, more government jobs...

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So you agree with this ban?

I'm in a weird in between place on things like this...the cost to care for people is going to rise dramatically. We are on the verge of a diabetic epidemic.

I understand the intent and am behind it....I don't agree with banning it though

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I'm in a weird in between place on things like this...the cost to care for people is going to rise dramatically. We are on the verge of a diabetic epidemic.

I understand the intent and am behind it....I don't agree with banning it though

agreed

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I'm shocked that you arent a fan of sin tax.

But fat people cost the government more than thin people in terms of health care costs, and fat people also consume more soda. The link between sugar and diabetes is pretty fuging clear, maybe this societal cost should be including in the cost of your sugar water?

Well, that is what being libertarian really is. We should be beholden to our own life's choices and to each other. Government is not supposed to be a parent to tell us right from wrong. They should protect our rights and very little beyond that. Once you are in the business of legislating morality, you are stepping into all the traps and pitfalls that have plagued civilization since our beginnings.

It doesn't mean that community doesn't have their own purview. It simply means that government's responsibility is to ensure that community does not infringe upon the rights of the individual/minority. Otherwise, majoritarian tyranny reigns as it almost always seems to do with pure democracies. If I wish to do something that is bad for me and no one else, that is my right. The converse of that is that I alone am responsible for the consequences of my actions.

i.e. - If I am irresponsible for my health, it is not the responsibility of everyone else to pick up the tab for my carelessness.

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Drinking Coke is now a sin? sin tax

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Drinking Coke is now a sin? sin tax

Anything could be a sin depending on who you ask

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smoking 1 cigarette is a sin?

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smoking 1 cigarette is a sin?

To some people... yip

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Drinking Coke is now a sin? sin tax

If you can put a sin tax on alcohol then you can put one on soda.

Look, as long as we as a society have decided to treat diabetics rather than letting them die, then we should do something to encourage people to be healthy. Everyone (outside of congress) can agree that we should stop subsidizing corn so much because it drastically reduces the price of things like high fructose corn syrup, which reduces the price of cheap, sweet processed food and encourages poor people to buy terribly unhealthy food (because the price per calorie is so much less than veggies and fruit).

What to do beyond that is up for debate, but pragmatically speaking doing nothing is a bad option.

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i.e. - If I am irresponsible for my health, it is not the responsibility of everyone else to pick up the tab for my carelessness.

Look, I mean this makes sense theoretically, but its not going to happen. If we dont do something to encourage healthier eating behaviors, our healthcare costs will continue to rise.

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Look, I mean this makes sense theoretically, but its not going to happen. If we dont do something to encourage healthier eating behaviors, our healthcare costs will continue to rise.

Encouraging healthier eating behaviors is the purview of community, not government. If you are okay with government deciding what is best for you, then you damn well better hope that the guys at the top agree with everything you think for as long as you are alive. If you have kids... then I guess that hope springs into perpetuity.

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I hate bans.

That said, I doubt most NY citizens do their actual grocery shopping inside NYC anyways, and even less now.

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