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Mr. Scot

Burning it all down

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Cam is in a critical stage of his development, I wouldn't want to mess that up by stripping this team down.

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How important is "winning now" vs building a team that can contend every year?

Either is better than what we have been doing the past 4 years, which is... neither.

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CJ didn't earn his pay either in my opinion.

No sacred cows, not on a sub 500 team

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CJ didn't earn his pay either in my opinion.

No sacred cows, not on a sub 500 team

Except that he was second amoung sacks for defensive ends and had more than any of the other top 10 money guys at the position.

Defensive End Salaries by year:

Name-----------------Sacks last year---------------Salary

1. Mario Williams------------10.5 sacks----------16 Million this year

2. Julius Peppers-----------11.5 sacks-----------14 Milion this year

3. Charles Johnson--------12.5 sacks------------12,666,667 this year

4. Jared Allen----------------12 sacks-------------12,210,012 this year

5. Chris Long-----------------11.5 sacks------------12,062,000 this year

6. Tamba Hali-----------------9 sacks---------------11,500,000 this year

7. Calais Campbell-----------6.5 sacks-------------11 Million this year

8. Tyson Jackson--------------3 sacks--------------10,985,000 this year

9. Elvis Dummervill------------11 sacks-----------------10,250,000 this year

10. Will Smith----------------10 sacks----------------10,233,333 this year

So I would say he's done a good job of earning his paycheck. Plus, after this season, we'll have gone through a majority of the guaranteed money. So we're in a better position with his contract than we will be if we signed another elite guy.

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2014 Cap Hits

Marty's payday bunch

Godfrey - 7.1 million

DeAngelo - 9.1 million

Big Money - 15 million

Beason - 10.75 million

Anderson - 5.4 million

Stewart - 6 million (prior to his restructure but I don't think it changes much)

They are all set to hurt us worse

But shouldn't the cuts be less sharp when they are released ?

FFS Hurndog...just FFS

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Little over 1 million per sack?

Don't quite see the economics there. I think that whole list is pretty over priced.

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Little over 1 million per sack?

Don't quite see the economics there. I think that whole list is pretty over priced.

That's the rate. The only defensive end with more sacks is JJ Watt, and he could get 150 millon to 200 million when he get his next deal.

Oh, and Cameron Wake who I thought played Outside Linebacker. I guess he converted this year.

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It's an important distinction.

Is Charles Johnson's contract one of the "bad" contracts?

In the short term it is not, in the long term it is. Still Dwill, Anderson, and Godfrey will all be cleared from the books next year and from the sounds of it we will replace them with cheaper FAs or Rookies we draft this year.

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Scorched earth scenarios are never a good thing for a pro organization. We've had one, it really didn't produce the desired result (which was a Hurney problem, but even more-so ultimately a J-Rich problem). Let's right the ship gradually, otherwise it will end up completely submerged on the ocean floor.

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Scorched earth scenarios are never a good thing for a pro organization. We've had one, it really didn't produce the desired result (which was a Hurney problem, but even more-so ultimately a J-Rich problem). Let's right the ship gradually, otherwise it will end up completely submerged on the ocean floor.

We really didn't have one....

Hurney was here before and after it. He paid his guys. Who was axed last time of significance?

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