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2014 Cap Hits

Marty's payday bunch

Godfrey - 7.1 million

DeAngelo - 9.1 million

Big Money - 15 million

Beason - 10.75 million

Anderson - 5.4 million

Stewart - 6 million (prior to his restructure but I don't think it changes much)

They are all set to hurt us worse

But shouldn't the cuts be less sharp when they are released ?

FFS Hurndog...just FFS

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Little over 1 million per sack?

Don't quite see the economics there. I think that whole list is pretty over priced.

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Little over 1 million per sack?

Don't quite see the economics there. I think that whole list is pretty over priced.

That's the rate. The only defensive end with more sacks is JJ Watt, and he could get 150 millon to 200 million when he get his next deal.

Oh, and Cameron Wake who I thought played Outside Linebacker. I guess he converted this year.

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It's an important distinction.

Is Charles Johnson's contract one of the "bad" contracts?

In the short term it is not, in the long term it is. Still Dwill, Anderson, and Godfrey will all be cleared from the books next year and from the sounds of it we will replace them with cheaper FAs or Rookies we draft this year.

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Scorched earth scenarios are never a good thing for a pro organization. We've had one, it really didn't produce the desired result (which was a Hurney problem, but even more-so ultimately a J-Rich problem). Let's right the ship gradually, otherwise it will end up completely submerged on the ocean floor.

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Scorched earth scenarios are never a good thing for a pro organization. We've had one, it really didn't produce the desired result (which was a Hurney problem, but even more-so ultimately a J-Rich problem). Let's right the ship gradually, otherwise it will end up completely submerged on the ocean floor.

We really didn't have one....

Hurney was here before and after it. He paid his guys. Who was axed last time of significance?

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We really didn't have one....

Hurney was here before and after it. He paid his guys. Who was axed last time of significance?

On the surface it would appear that no one of significance was "axed" except Pep (and not trying to get into semantics, but Pep was axed for all intents and purposes), but we cut Delhomme, Kemo, Damione Lewis, Hoover, and Diggs. Too many veterans (and in most cases, leaders) were jettisoned at one time. It wasn't necessarily axing the individual pieces unto themselves that killed us, but changing the whole dynamic of the team so quickly and drastically. All of us saw the result.

As far as Hurney paying his guys, he went awry. He overpaid, and that's why we are in the pickle we are in today, with Gett trying to come up with creative ways to clean up the mess that Hurney (and Richardson) compounded by getting all loosey-goosey with money. Hindsight is 20:20, but if J-Rich wanted to clean things up, he probably should have just went even further by letting some of the other guys walk if they had to be paid what, in retrospect, was unreasonable. It's like they went into shock after seeing their handiwork, and then went overboard.

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On the surface it would appear that no one of significance was "axed" except Pep (and not trying to get into semantics, but Pep was axed for all intents and purposes), but we cut Delhomme, Kemo, Damione Lewis, Hoover, and Diggs. Too many veterans (and in most cases, leaders) were jettisoned at one time. It wasn't necessarily axing the individual pieces unto themselves that killed us, but changing the whole dynamic of the team so quickly and drastically. All of us saw the result.

As far as Hurney paying his guys, he went awry. He overpaid, and that's why we are in the pickle we are in today, with Gett trying to come up with creative ways to clean up the mess that Hurney (and Richardson) compounded by getting all loosey-goosey with money. Hindsight is 20:20, but if J-Rich wanted to clean things up, he probably should have just went even further by letting some of the other guys walk if they had to be paid what, in retrospect, was unreasonable. It's like they went into shock after seeing their handiwork, and then went overboard.

Hurney has always over paid his favorite players. On that whole list not one of those guys was not over the hill or just bad. Still what did Hurney do after he was given back control. The exact same thing. We are in this situation because JR did not fire Hurney with Fox. The only bright side is we drafted Cam under Hurney who Gambled on him.

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Hurney has always over paid his favorite players. On that whole list not one of those guys was not over the hill or just bad. Still what did Hurney do after he was given back control. The exact same thing. We are in this situation because JR did not fire Hurney with Fox. The only bright side is we drafted Cam under Hurney who Gambled on him.

Eh, he got some good pieces to build around Cam (as you said), Hardy, Johnson, Olsen, Kuechly, etc. He just lacked overall vision on which pieces to keep and which ones to let walk and now it's stuck us with some bad contracts. Not the end of the world.

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Eh, he got some good pieces to build around Cam (as you said), Hardy, Johnson, Olsen, Kuechly, etc. He just lacked overall vision on which pieces to keep and which ones to let walk and now it's stuck us with some bad contracts. Not the end of the world.

His biggest blunders were in the draft and how he paid his people. Thoses are prob the two biggest things in football I might add.

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I love the guys on our team. Love them. If we could get rid of the main bad contracts excluding CJ I would be all for it. It means we wouldn't have to be sweating about locking up someone like Hardy, and we could actually go after a FA or two.

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I'm not in favor of ever tanking a season. NFL careers are too fragile. A team should put 110% effort into winning every season.

But what if Bob Ross was the Unanimous number 1 pick in the next draft?

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