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#16 rayzor

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:35 AM

I'm sure rivera would like it. thanks to hurney magic and us having two if the most expensive RBs in the league there's no way that's gonna happen.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:39 AM

I'd be happy from the standpoint that it shows a shift in philosophy under Gettleman, but I really do not think Wallace is going to be what the hype would have you believe. He is NOT worth what he was asking for. I'd rather address WR in the draft and sign for other positions - CB, DT, etc.


I hear you, but I think that it's gonna be hard to pass up on one of the DTs. Of course Lotulelei has the heart issue going on, nevertheless he, Floyd and Richardson seem to be the real deal. I am not convinced that I would use our top pick on any WR other than Cordarelle Patterson who is seemingly a lock to go to the Jets.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:42 AM

I honestly think the Star situation will work out okay and he will be the pick at 14....


Think about this....

Hardy-Edwards- Lotulelei-Johnson
Beason-Keuchly-Davis

That would be a beastly front 7

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:58 AM

Gettleman said we would be filling needs with FA/Trades. And Drafting BPA.


BPA always confuses me. So hypothetically if when we pick Matt Barkley or Geno Smith are still on the board, and by the Panthers draftboard they are the BPA, do we pick Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?

What if it is another middle linebacker? What if Ogletree is on top of our board come time to pick? Do we invest in another ILB?

What if we get to the second round and a RB like Lacy or Bernard slips to our second round pick? Do we take yet another RB?

I understand that you don't want to draft a lesser player just to fill a need, but what happens when BPA on your board is a guy that isn't actually better than the guy you already have because that guy is an established pro bowler?

I think it has to be a balance in the first two rounds, and then go BPA from round 3 through round 7. You have to determine whether a player who is still on the board is so good that you have to pick him over an established high caliber player.

In other words, I wouldn't want to draft in the first two rounds to break even or digress in a position, just because it is the BPA. I want to draft to improve my team, and then go BPA after round 2 when you are usually drafting for roster depth.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:00 AM

I honestly think the Star situation will work out okay and he will be the pick at 14....


Think about this....

Hardy-Edwards- Lotulelei-Johnson
Beason-Keuchly-Davis

That would be a beastly front 7


That's why I think we are going DT this year.





Call me crazy, but I don't see Wallace as a true WR1. I am not even sure about Jennings either. But, I believe either would work wonderfully as long as Smith is still playing at a high level. Thing is, I think that we'd be in a similar situation---needing to draft a WR---in a couple of years if we were "lucky" enough to get either 1 of them.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:02 AM

I'd rather Dwayne Bowe

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:04 AM

That's why I think we are going DT this year.





Call me crazy, but I don't see Wallace as a true WR1. I am not even sure about Jennings either. But, I believe either would work wonderfully as long as Smith is still playing at a high level. Thing is, I think that we'd be in a similar situation---needing to draft a WR---in a couple of years if we were "lucky" enough to get either 1 of them.


I think we can make do on offense for now.....

My train of thought is that if we have a dominate front seven like I showed above it would take a lot of pressure off the back end and we would even be able to make physical corners like Dockery and Thomas look great.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:33 AM

Wallace is perfect for this offense. That said, "warm" also implies we could be looking at a receiver, just a different one.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:33 AM

If we're keeping the backfield intact, it suggests that we're "all in" on offense this year. That suggests that any FA moves for instant production would come on this side of the ball. IMO our 1st round pick could be an right OT who could move left in a couple of years and replace Gross. I believe that they have made their analysis and have decided that we need to concentrate on scoring the first 3 quarters and running out the clock in the fourth. Winning with defense will take a few more years.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

BPA always confuses me.



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:48 AM

BPA always confuses me. So hypothetically if when we pick Matt Barkley or Geno Smith are still on the board, and by the Panthers draftboard they are the BPA, do we pick Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?

What if it is another middle linebacker? What if Ogletree is on top of our board come time to pick? Do we invest in another ILB?

What if we get to the second round and a RB like Lacy or Bernard slips to our second round pick? Do we take yet another RB?

I understand that you don't want to draft a lesser player just to fill a need, but what happens when BPA on your board is a guy that isn't actually better than the guy you already have because that guy is an established pro bowler?

I think it has to be a balance in the first two rounds, and then go BPA from round 3 through round 7. You have to determine whether a player who is still on the board is so good that you have to pick him over an established high caliber player.

In other words, I wouldn't want to draft in the first two rounds to break even or digress in a position, just because it is the BPA. I want to draft to improve my team, and then go BPA after round 2 when you are usually drafting for roster depth.


Of course you're going to take the BPA within reason. I don't believe any of the players that you listed above are sure-fire picks at their position. No Andrew Lucks this year. If a high caliber player that is pretty much a consensus "generational" player at a position drops to you for whatever reason---a player that is heads and shoulders above everyone else at not only their position but also light years ahead of others at their respective positions, you better take him. You can worries about the particulars later. When differences become a little more clouded, then you can start worrying about balance and depend upon your best guesstimates in regards to the value of particular players and how they will fit into your overall team/scheme and plan for success. As the draft moves into the later rounds it seems to me that it would be more about value, and finding possible diamonds in the rough to add depth and fill out your roster where there may be less obvious, but suspected issues on the horizon.

We're good at QB and RB for presumably years to come, so we would never draft those positions right now, unless we already were working out a draft day trade (and remember that it's believed that good RBs come a dime per dozen now). Mind you, there would have to be a unique situation or need on both sides of the equation for two teams to come up with trades on draft day, but it does happen.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:51 AM

A WR in FA?! This is so FUGGING EXCITING! : :stuff:

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:54 AM

I want Wallace but I want him to come at average price and I also want to draft a WR with a 4th this year and top pick next year. Hurney has put off WR too long and we need not just an instant contender like wallace but a future #1/competition in the draft. Unless we get a freak with a high pick, which means losing again (or trading away future, ex. JJ - don't see Dave doing this), a WR is going to take time. You'll need competition, I don't see Wallace as a #1 but he is closer than anyone else bsides smitty on our team and he will add competition. What competition does a high pick WR really have here and do we really want to tank another season to take one who does not need any?. Decent players that we pick up however will not want 1 year deals meaning Gettleman has to think these guys will work out for more than one year, possibly under a new coach.

Makes you wonder who will influence picks/FA more Dave or Ron?

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:54 AM

I would love to have him here, but I think Rivera was referring to signing a receiver in general. Either way the position needs to be addressed this season. Most of the media thinks Miami will sign Wallace to a big contract, which I don't understand considering they not long ago traded away Brandon Marshall for peanuts.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:56 AM

If we're keeping the backfield intact, it suggests that we're "all in" on offense this year. That suggests that any FA moves for instant production would come on this side of the ball. IMO our 1st round pick could be an right OT who could move left in a couple of years and replace Gross. I believe that they have made their analysis and have decided that we need to concentrate on scoring the first 3 quarters and running out the clock in the fourth. Winning with defense will take a few more years.


I don't think keeping the backfield intact suggests we are all in on offense this year.

I think improving the OL and Cam's recieving targets would suggest that.


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