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North Carolina bill would add Bible study at public schools

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I took Old Testament in High School.

It was taught more or less as a literature class.

Aggressive atheists either didn't sign up for it or had no issues with it while I took it.

Parents didn't complain.

Learned some hebrew and Abraham's extended family tree.

depends on the teacher... I really don't have any issue with this but i'm not naive to think that people won't use this as a soap box to prosthelytize... that said, i think with the internet... that'll mostly take care of itself.

Personally, I would've loved a class like that when I was in high school...

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I'm curious as to why the author of the bill is specifying the Old and New Testament only. Pretty sure I know the reason though.

right... that's the rub... we aren't studying christianity as a religion amongst many, we're studying it as the truth... which is why we've left out the apocrypha and other rejected books. It's a subtle difference but it speaks volumes.

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I took Old Testament in High School.

It was taught more or less as a literature class.

Aggressive atheists either didn't sign up for it or had no issues with it while I took it.

Parents didn't complain.

Learned some hebrew and Abraham's extended family tree.

ours dealt not so much with content but how it was written. daydreaming much in that class

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I took Old Testament in High School.

It was taught more or less as a literature class.

Aggressive atheists either didn't sign up for it or had no issues with it while I took it.

Parents didn't complain.

Learned some hebrew and Abraham's extended family tree.

I've never met an "agressive" atheist in person only on the internet. However I think that term might need to be defined.

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Well get ready to spend a fortune on lawsuits if it passes because you know the good ole Christian Bible teachers will fail at presenting it in a proper Consitutional manner (by pushing their views) and then lawsuits will ensue.

edit: and don't think all the lawsuits will come from non christians, imagine the denomational differece in Christian theology.

For sure. The lawsuits will continue. Do you have an idea what will stop lawsuits? It's the country we live in today. The people making the rules make their living on lawsuits.

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It never ceases to amaze me how much my fellow Christians want to ram their philosophies down people's throats.

Did you not read the part that said they would only be "electives"? Only way it would be ramming down anyone's throat is to make it a required course.

As a required course....hell no.

As an elective....meh.

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I've never met an "agressive" atheist in person only on the internet. However I think that term might need to be defined.

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characterized by or tending toward unprovoked offensives, attacks, invasions, or the like; militantly forward or menacing: aggressive acts against a neighboring country.

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vigorously energetic, especially in the use of initiative and forcefulness: an aggressive salesperson.

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emphasizing maximum growth and capital gains over quality, security, and income: an aggressive mutual fund.

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a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

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right... that's the rub... we aren't studying christianity as a religion amongst many, we're studying it as the truth... which is why we've left out the apocrypha and other rejected books. It's a subtle difference but it speaks volumes.

With what I said earlier about what I took in high school being said,

I took OT in college, too, and it was perhaps an even bigger step away from sunday school.

It was much more open about apocryphal and pseudepigraphal works, difference in transcriptions, scribes that seemed to add stuff on their own, and subtlelties in translation.

I remember one time, my professor even went out of her way to criticize Matthew for misinterpreting one of the prophet's writings (I think it was Jeremiah) about the coming of the Messiah.

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I've never met an "agressive" atheist in person only on the internet. However I think that term might need to be defined.

Well, mmmbeans was the one who introduced the term to the discussion, but anyone can be aggressive in promoting their beliefs, surely you can see this.

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From my perspective, I would not want the bible taught in school except as an exploration of literature.

The church alone should be in charge of its teachings and precepts. Many who think prayer or bible teachings in school are a good thing should sit back for a moment, examine what they believe and ask themselves if they entrust some of their long held beliefs to be taught by the "state". Doubt it.

I hope that teachings are not anti Christian in schools but do not need the state to attempt to teach my kids about prayer or the bible. That is the parents and churches job. Schools have enough trouble trying to teach a kid to read.

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I would actually like to see a class in high schools that compare and contrast different religions.

Would provide an interesting perspective.....I took one in college and it was actually very interesting.

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i have no problem with this as long as it remains elective

then we'd have all the future child molesters and weirdo creeps in one class

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