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How much over the cap are we really?as low as 3-5 million?


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#31 SooSlow84

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:00 AM

Either way, he is more accurate than the idiot who wrote the article in the OP.

Lol, the only thing I can think of is maybe this doesnt account for the extra needed to sign draft picks? Perhaps the op is right but that isn't factored in yet? Just a guess.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:02 AM

Lol, the only thing I can think of is maybe this doesnt account for the extra needed to sign draft picks? Perhaps the op is right but that isn't factored in yet? Just a guess.


Draft picks are not factored in at this point.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:02 AM

IQ insults from a semi-sentient being who has so little to do with his pathetic existence that he argues with Person.... That is laughable.


When you only take into account the top 51 contracts (which is what he was doing in one he would be correct).

What's funny is I'm a worthless being because I argue with person, yet you're here arguing with me. What does that make you??

Ill wait...

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:05 AM

How hard is it for superman to see that person claimed he was using a 122mil cap estimate and I show he was using a 121 mil cap estimate. How is that not wrong? Add in the fact that shefter is reporting we are 8 mil over (1 mil less than what person is saying) and it makes sense that person is off by a million

Logic must be your kryptonite.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:06 AM

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $10.9 million - Adjusted Cap: +1.9 million
Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $3.3 million - Adjusted Cap: +5.2 Million
Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 5 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +10 million.

Good for some free agent activity and signing of rookies, etc.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:08 AM

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $10.9 million - Adjusted Cap: +1.9 million
Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $3.3 million - Adjusted Cap: +5.2 Million
Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 5 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +10 million.

Good for some free agent activity and signing of rookies, etc.


You have to still pay them their guaranteed money. Your numbers are off. Gamble saves us 7.9 I believe.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:12 AM

You have to still pay them their guaranteed money. Your numbers are off. Gamble saves us 7.9 I believe.


My bad....Re-do:

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $7.9 million - Adjusted Cap: -1.9 million
Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $2.1 million - Adjusted Cap: +0.2 Million
Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 6 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +6.2 million.

Misc. Resigning and restructuring....we should be close to plus 8 million.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:19 AM

What's funny is I'm a worthless being because I argue with person, yet you're here arguing with me. What does that make you??

Ill wait...


The difference is I am casualty browsing a message board you actually went out of your way to talk smack to person....

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:27 AM

The difference is I am casualty browsing a message board you actually went out of your way to talk smack to person....

Actually, it was more of a correction as I was casually browsing Twitter. He then replied with " that's not what I said", so I replied with a link to his quotes to prove he did.

I also liked how you changed the subject of the original argument once you realized you were wrong.
Go ahead and keep throwing your little fits when all I did was ANSWER A THREAD QUESTION WITH THE CORRECT INFO it makes you feel better. I said what I had to say.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:32 AM

My bad....Re-do:

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $7.9 million - Adjusted Cap: -1.9 million
Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $2.1 million - Adjusted Cap: +0.2 Million
Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 6 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +6.2 million.

Misc. Resigning and restructuring....we should be close to plus 8 million.

I'm quite sure it's only 8 mil but I get where you're going.
I'd honestly like to bring back what's his face at RG or bring in another RG even if we have to spend for it. Also bring in a NT or UT in free agency if possible.

Come draft day, if Patterson is available I want to pull the trigger on him. If he's not I'd love to take the best DT on the board whether it be UT or NT. (Richardson, Star, Floyd, Jesse Williams, etc)

Round 2 I'd like a safety unless we took a DT, then I'd like to absolutely address WR with the best one on the board. (Hunter hopefully)

We can't fill all of our holes this year, but I believe by the 2014 kickoff we are going to be real contenders.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:34 AM

My bad....Re-do:

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $7.9 million - Adjusted Cap: -1.9 million
Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $2.1 million - Adjusted Cap: +0.2 Million
Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 6 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +6.2 million.

Misc. Resigning and restructuring....we should be close to plus 8 million.


i thought adam just said we were 8mil over???

#42 carp24000

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:43 AM

i thought adam just said we were 8mil over???


Person said 9 million last night, so I am taking the over just to be cautious. Hopefully it is really 8 million though...

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:00 AM

My bad....Re-do:

So say we are -9 million:

Release Gamble: Savings of $7.9 million - Adjusted Cap: -1.9 million
Release Ron Edwards: Savings of $2.1 million - Adjusted Cap: +0.2 Million
Restructure Gross, Beason, Deangelo: Savings of 6 million combined - Adjusted Cap: +6.2 million.

Misc. Resigning and restructuring....we should be close to plus 8 million.


if 4-5mil is going to be needed for rookies were only going to have 4.5-5mil for free agency which isnt alot but better than nothing

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:13 AM

if 4-5mil is going to be needed for rookies were only going to have 4.5-5mil for free agency which isnt alot but better than nothing

Assuming those numbers, yes. However I think we will save a ton more than 6 million from Gross, Beason and Williams.

Gross is due 11.7 mil this year and 8.7 of it isn't guaranteed. Gettlemen could ask him to take a pay cut or he perhaps he could restructure.by converting some of that base money to a signing bonus like we did with Kalil? He has a few years left imo.
Could CJ do the same? Tons of cap room to move around there.

Beason needs to take a pay cut. 2 years straight on IR and now he's moving to Outside Linebacker.
He's a 9.5 mil cap hit this year and that's just inexcusable.

Deangelo Williams is probably willing to take a pay cut. He realizes he will never get that contract anywhere else and he loves his city and his teammates.He is due 8.2 mil this year and I'd like to see Gettlemen shave off a few mil this year and a few mil next year and cut him after 2014. (when Stewart's contract inflates massively)

If he does his work these guys alone could potentially save us 12 million.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:20 AM

Per PFT...Olsen just restructed. Good news!

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Panthers TE Greg Olsen has restructured his contract, per source with knowledge.


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