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How much over the cap are we really?as low as 3-5 million?


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#61 Growl

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:26 PM

big cuts still to come as well.


Honestly though Im thinking we will likely do the bare minimum as long as possible to see what kind of needs and can addressed and replaced via FA and the draft before we making a big decision though

It's really a duh statement though I suspect we will make at least one major cut prior to all that, but just something to keep in mind

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:33 PM

A few players hit incentives that bumped their contract up, Thomas Davis with a bump of 500k. Stewart with a 200k bump from the restructure. A few other's will see bumps as well from playing time.

Carolina started this about 12 million (11.8 to be exact) over the cap counting the Carry over of 3.6 million. Add the Stewart and Davis bumps that puts the team at -12.5 million. For the sake of any other bumps from any other players will round that up to 13 million over the cap. I know a few other players will have hit incentives in their contracts that cause a bump up in salary for this season. I know I'm missing 1-2 players that hit escalators in their contracts, I just can't remember which ones right now. All of these numbers are with the expected cap of 120.9 million.


This is were you see the confusion with sites about the cap room for teams. I think some are still using the old cap number for the cap projections.


The following numbers are before the cap increase, I'll add that in at the end for the total.


Take that 13 million now and you subtract the savings from the Kalil deal, (The move slashes Kalil’s cap figure from $8.6 million to $6.4 million and he remains under contract through the 2016 season.) Link



That puts the team at 11 million over the cap, also reported in the above link. Haruki Nakamura saved the team 485,000. Link



This put the team at 10.515 million over the cap.

Greg Olsen's contract restructure saves the team 2.4 million. This put the team at 8.115.



Now we add the extra 2.4 million from the salary cap bump and that puts the Panther's at 5.715.

Person I don't think is including the 900k minimum player salary benefit which raises the cap to 123.9. Link



Explaining Person's 6.6 number is easy, add that 900k benefit back to the Panther's number and you get 6.6 Million.




Edited for the Ron Edwards Cut - This move saves the team roughly 1.667 Million on the salary cap.


Adding the Ron Edwards cut, it puts the Panther's at 4.048 Million over the salary cap of 123.9 million.




TLDR - Panther's are 4.048 million over counting the 900k minimum player benefit and Ron Edwards cut.

If you add the expected Chris Gamble cut to the numbers, the Panther's are 3.852 Million under the Salary cap.

If you take away my earlier 500k bump out of it then the team is at 3.548 million over.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:42 PM

So with Ron Edwards gone, we are at 3.215 million over?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:45 PM

That there is virtually no possible win-win restrucuture for the team to do with Beason and Deangelo.


i understand that. it would be a lose for the players and a win for the team. beason knows he doesnt deserve that money after being out two years, he could do what davis did. deanglo would be more difficult but he also knows he could be a june 1st cut

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:45 PM

Good post. Now factor in Ron and we are not far off.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:46 PM

So with Ron Edwards gone, we are at 3.215 million over?


$4.045. Edwards move saves $1.67m, still has $833k of bonus proration according to Adam Caplan that hits the cap.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:46 PM

So with Ron Edwards gone, we are at 3.215 million over?



If it saves the team what was listed earlier of 2.5 million, I'll have to check the numbers again to check if I missed something after Caplan listed it as a savings of 1.6 million.


EDIT: He saves the team 1.667 million which puts the team roughly at 4.048 million over the cap.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:50 PM

so it looks like if we cut gamble now we would be roughly 4mil under the cap which can be viewed a money to sign draft rookies. we need to restructure other contracts to have money for FA

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:04 PM

Bring on Chris Canty and Mike Wallace...hahaha

#70 rayzor

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:10 PM

2013 Totals.................. Base Salary..........Signing Bonus...... Other Bonus............. Cap Figure
Active Contracts ...........76,783,643...........35,686,154.............11,346,666...............123,816,463
Top 51 Contracts..........74,203,643............35,686,154.............11,346,666...............121,236,463
DeadMoney.....................5,354,796...............................................................................5,354,796
2012 Available Cap Rollover......................................................................................... 3,600,000
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Totals ...........................82,138,439............35,686,154............. 11,346,666............. 122,991,259


http://www.spotrac.c...nthers/cap-hit/

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:12 PM

Person said we are 3.5 over the cap right now.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:13 PM

Person said we are 3.5 over the cap right now.


dumbass finally caught up. Technically speaking he is correct. Now factor in our 3.6 rollover money and we are under!

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:17 PM

dumbass finally caught up. Technically speaking he is correct. Now factor in our 3.6 rollover money and we are under!


He's been adamant in saying his math figures in the 2012 rollover though.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:17 PM

dumbass finally caught up. Technically speaking he is correct. Now factor in our 3.6 rollover money and we are under!


the rollover is already included in his numbers, this was posted earlier

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:19 PM

He's been adamant in saying his math figures in the 2012 rollover though.


He also said he was an "english major" as well too. He is not getting his numbers from a team source, he is doing his own fuzzy math off of articles written by other people. Believe Person if you want, I don't care.


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