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How much over the cap are we really?as low as 3-5 million?


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#76 UNCrules2187

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:24 PM

He also said he was an "english major" as well too. He is not getting his numbers from a team source, he is doing his own fuzzy math off of articles written by other people. Believe Person if you want, I don't care.


Just replied to my Twitter ? asking if he was including rollover:

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@UNCrules2187 @spotrac they're off on Thomas Davis' numbers. He had playing-time incentives that kicked in.

Still, according to carpanfan96, TD's incentive was only $500k, not $3.5m... :/

#77 panther4life

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:25 PM

the rollover is already included in his numbers, this was posted earlier

and he's still joe person.. He is consistenly late with info on the panthers and typically gets his info from other writers. He did the math in his head( this much he admitted). His numbers are not from a team source, meanwhile spotrac has every contract listed and rayzor posted the results for you guys to see.

#78 carpanfan96

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:27 PM

I don't know if his total number's are corrected or not, but the Sport trac site has some interesting calculations on signing bonuses. Like listing Tolbert's at 2 million and only figuring up 1.6 million in his contract numbers.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:29 PM

Just replied to my Twitter ? asking if he was including rollover:

Joe Person @josephperson
@UNCrules2187 @spotrac they're off on Thomas Davis' numbers. He had playing-time incentives that kicked in.

Still, according to carpanfan96, TD's incentive was only $500k, not $3.5m... :/



He might have had more then I knew of, which is completely possible since I don't work for the Panthers. I know he had play time incentives and option bonuses and such built into his contract. He's basically still making the same amount he was before his restructure, it's just done completely different now




Just a note though, that Sport trac website is off on quite a few contracts just from glancing through it. Nothing major, but 100k here, 500k there and it adds up quick..


If you remove the extra 500k bump I put into my numbers, then I've got the panther's at 3.548 over the cap. I actually might have added to much into my bump up for incentives for players on the team.

So 3.548 seems about right and I'd suspect that's about what Person has the team at right now.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:29 PM

Just replied to my Twitter ? asking if he was including rollover:

Joe Person @josephperson
@UNCrules2187 @spotrac they're off on Thomas Davis' numbers. He had playing-time incentives that kicked in.

Still, according to carpanfan96, TD's incentive was only $500k, not $3.5m... :/


overthecap.com coincides with what Person is saying. So fug it, me the casual fan appears to be wrong and Person finally looks to be right.

#81 SuperMan

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:35 PM

overthecap.com coincides with what Person is saying. So fug it, me the casual fan appears to be wrong and Person finally looks to be right.


That is no more of an official site than spotrac....


I will believe what the team releases soon enough.

#82 SooSlow84

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:37 PM



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@josephperson lol. I'm just trying to understand where my team is on the cap. No need to get offended.



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LOL he mad. At no time was I rude about anything...I'm not trying to be an "armchair capologist" wither. But 6.6-2.5 doesn't equal 3.5.

#83 carp24000

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:44 PM


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@josephperson lol. I'm just trying to understand where my team is on the cap. No need to get offended.



Joe Person@josephperson
Twitter has created a generation of amateur and armchair capologists. Among other things



LOL he mad. At no time was I rude about anything...I'm not trying to be an "armchair capologist" wither. But 6.6-2.5 doesn't equal 3.5.


Hes a gigantic tool. I dont follow him anymore because he is either 12 hours late or completely inaccurate when it comes to Panthers news.

#84 rayzor

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:45 PM

he's a whiny little man.

#85 SuperMan

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:50 PM

You would be whiny to I bet if your name was "Joe Person" and you were a little bitch. ^

#86 SuperMan

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:52 PM


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@josephperson lol. I'm just trying to understand where my team is on the cap. No need to get offended.



Joe Person@josephperson
Twitter has created a generation of amateur and armchair capologists. Among other things



LOL he mad. At no time was I rude about anything...I'm not trying to be an "armchair capologist" wither. But 6.6-2.5 doesn't equal 3.5.



This is what I was telling you earlier Joe Person is a moron.... lol I would just wait until the team releases the official cap.

#87 carpanfan96

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:59 PM

The reason for the difference is that Sport trac is off on a few contracts and some signing bonuses here and there. The biggest one is Thomas Davis who will probably actually make closer to 4.2 Million this season then the 3.2 they have listed as his cap hit.


The Panther's started this off season at around 15-16 Million over the 120.9 cap number. Add in the roll over and it put the panther's roughly between 12-13 Million over the cap. Add in the restructures and such and you'll get a number around 3.5-4 million over the cap right now.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:01 PM

He might have had more then I knew of, which is completely possible since I don't work for the Panthers. I know he had play time incentives and option bonuses and such built into his contract. He's basically still making the same amount he was before his restructure, it's just done completely different now




Just a note though, that Sport trac website is off on quite a few contracts just from glancing through it. Nothing major, but 100k here, 500k there and it adds up quick..


If you remove the extra 500k bump I put into my numbers, then I've got the panther's at 3.548 over the cap. I actually might have added to much into my bump up for incentives for players on the team.

So 3.548 seems about right and I'd suspect that's about what Person has the team at right now.


click on the contact us thing and they will fix any discrepancies within minutes. I told them about Nakumara's contract and they fixed it immediately.

#89 Stroupe-a-loop

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:01 PM

I'm guessing not many people know besides the team and the league. So . . . chillax.

#90 carpanfan96

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:05 PM

I was just talking to him about my numbers and he said they were close enough.


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