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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1362120708' post='2148274']
Very.

In fairness, it's a sad truth about the legal system that rape victims really do get dragged over the coals in the trial process. That's one reason why some women either never report it or, after reporting, refuse to file charges.

In my opinion, that dynamic is a major reason why Ben Roethlisberger isn't rotting in prison right now. God only knows what his lawyers would have done to those girls.

Of course, there's also the Duke Lacrosse team incident. There are major pitfalls on both sides. My natural tendency is toward believing rape victims, but cases like that at Duke have to give you pause.

This situation? Not enough detail and a load of unanswered questions. Did she get checked out by a doctor who could have documented evidence of rape? Why did she go to the school - and now to the public - but [i]not[/i] to the police? What's this guys rep like? Does he have other complaints against him?

There's just not enough info here to say much of anything definite.
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I agree. Unfortunately though, Rape, and especially date rape, is one of the most difficult crimes to prove. Usually, no one really knows what happens except for the accused and the accusor.

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Colleges do crazy stuff.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/florida-college-says-christian-group-cant-have-christian-leaders.html

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[quote name='stirs' timestamp='1362100698' post='2147987']
Years ago, that is what we called girls who were a bit "unpredictable". Rabbit boilers was just a saying with our group.

Assuming you saw the movie
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i actually heard that reference a second time last night. Thanks, that time i got it. It's been like 15 years since i saw that movie.

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Yeah this story hasnt exactly been a secret. If you want to read about the actual details of the case, these articles might help.

http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2013/02/gambill-wants-charge-dropped
http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2013/02/gambill-at-fault-lawyer-says
http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2013/02/sexual-assault-victim-charged

You may find this little nugget interesting
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In the spring of 2012, Gambill [url="http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2012/12/victims-speak-up-on-assault"]filed a report of sexual assault[/url] to UNC against her ex-boyfriend. Gresham said the case was adjudicated in a 20-hour hearing by a University Hearings Board of two students, two faculty members and one administrator.
Three members of the board — one student, one faculty member and the administrator — were female, Gresham said.

The board, which was utilized while UNC was in the process of [url="http://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2012/11/50b8358b311c9"]removing sexual assault from the student-led Honor Court’s jurisdiction[/url], found Gambill’s ex-boyfriend not guilty — in a 5-0 decision — on two counts of sexual harassment, Gresham said.
He was found guilty in a 4-1 decision of verbal harassment, Gresham added.
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[quote name='Davidson Deac II' timestamp='1362138411' post='2148322']
I agree. Unfortunately though, Rape, and especially date rape, is one of the most difficult crimes to prove. Usually, no one really knows what happens except for the accused and the accusor.
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One of my lousiest memories of college: A friend of mine was accused of date rape. The girl wound up not pursuing it via police (for reasons I don't remember) but after listening to him describe what had happened, I came to a really painful conclusion.

He was guilty :(

Not a thing I could do about it justice-wise, but after that we were no longer friends.

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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1362157381' post='2148661']
One of my lousiest memories of college: A friend of mine was accused of date rape. The girl wound up not pursuing it via police (for reasons I don't remember) but after listening to him describe what had happened, I came to a really painful conclusion.

He was guilty :(

Not a thing I could do about it justice-wise, but after that we were no longer friends.
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I saw the other side of it. Girl accused a guy of taking advantage of her when she was passed out, but another girl walked in on them when they were doing the deed, and the accusor was on top riding him, so her accusation went nowhere.

More often than not, the woman is telling the truth, but not always.

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[quote name='Davidson Deac II' timestamp='1362159010' post='2148715']
More often than not, the woman is telling the truth, but not always.
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I agree.

As in a lot of things though, phony victims make it harder for true victims.

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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1362160384' post='2148742']


I agree.

As in a lot of things though, phony victims make it harder for true victims.
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True in every facet of life

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[quote name='Davidson Deac II' timestamp='1362159010' post='2148715']


I saw the other side of it. Girl accused a guy of taking advantage of her when she was passed out, but another girl walked in on them when they were doing the deed, and the accusor was on top riding him, so her accusation went nowhere.

More often than not, the woman is telling the truth, but not always.
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I agree.

As in a lot of things though, phony victims make it harder for true victims.
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Definitely a tough situation... I've been seeing some reports on the morning news shows about this guys trial in Montana, the college QB.

From what I've seen it's a straight up he-said-she-said where she says she said no and he continued, and he says she was a willing participant. Tough spot for the jurors in those cases... I guess you just have to weigh all the testimony to make sure nobody's coming up with inconsistencies.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/jordan-johnson-trial-star-quarterback-jordan-johnson-takes-18596658

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fun fact of the day, more men are raped every year in America than women

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2/10 would not bang. What was this kid thinking?

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College + Alcohol = ?????

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