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[Frash Brastard]

great quarterback

greater defense/running game/special teams/coaching/talent evaluation/drafting/front office

Their defense has waned over the last year

[Frash Brastard]

I understand the logic in rewarding the guy that brought you the championship but the highest paid player should be reserved for the ones that have the stats during the regular season and the postseason. Big Ben and Eli come to mind who should then be paid more than him.

I still do not see how someone who averages 20td passes a year, never thrown for 4k, and averages 60% is the highest paid when there's QBs that year after year throw for 4,500+, 35-45tds, and also win Super Bowls. Just doesn't add up.

They were better off franchising him and see if be can replicate the success. Now they're stuck with him whether or not he sucks for the remainder of his contract.

Much of that money is going to moxie, which in my opinion he has arguably the most of out of any QB in the league.

[CPF4LIFE]

Yeah but back here in the real world.......

lol

[pantherclaw]

He does deserve to be the highest paid qb in the league.
Baltimore could have saved money by extending him last season.
Instead they made him play out the final year of his rookie contract, which ended with him leading the ravens to winning the Superbowl.
That is what it's all about. Winning the Superbowl.
Is he the best is the league? Nope. Blame the ravens on them not extending him earlier.

[Mr. Scot]

He has the wins...

In fairness, at this moment he's accounted for an equal number of Ravens Super Bowl victories as Trent Dilfer.

Flacco is better than Dilfer. Nobody would need to convince me of that.

Better than Rodgers, Brees, Peyton and Brady? You're gonna have to sell me on that notion.

[SmootsDaddy89]

Cam Cameron is terrible. I don't think you can emphasize enough how much Flacco was held back because of Cameron. Look at what Flacco did in 4 playoff games without him. 1100 yards, 11 TDs, 0 INTs. If he plays that way throughout the regular season next year, you can't say he isn't one of the elite QBs in the league with that ring on his finger.

[Mage]

Yeah but back here in the real world.......

Not sure what this is supposed to mean.

I'm not saying he won't be in demand for a huge contract. He probably will be as he is entitled to. But don't think it'll be as much if he wasn't getting the kind of endorsements he's getting.

[Frash Brastard]

Mage, Peyton Manning is consistently one of the highest earners in the league in endorsement deals and he was still able to manage a contract in the neighborhood of 100 million with a bad neck and no guarantee he would come close to performing at a level he was once capable of to boot

[Pantherman]

this will be our predicament in a few years

How do you see this? Cam keeps improving and getting better. But unless Cam gets in the top 5 QB in the next 2 seasons and gets us deep into the playoffs this coming season and the season afterwards. Then Cam will not see that kinda money with his first big contract go around. My guess is that Cam first big contract will be in the range of 60 mill. for 5-6 years. I just don't see Cam getting no where near that big of a contract that Flacco just got. Unless Cam in the next 2 seasons get us to the SB and win it. Panthers would not be able to afford that type of contract. That would kill this team if we had to put out that much money each season.

[Pantherman]

It's really gonna make signing cam painful.

How do you see this. Cam is not a Brady or even a Manning. Unless Cam gets us deep into the playoffs in for the next 2 seasons and even get to the SB. Cam will end up getting a similar contract that Alex Smith got just last year. Just with a little more money added on to that. But for Cam first big contract. I just don't see him getting no where close to what Brady,Peyton, and Flacco is currently is getting. Cam will get that kind of money when gets another contract down the road when he is around 29yrs old. All depending how good he does.

[rayzor]

lol

RT @_Happy_Gilmore: Ravens release new Joe Flacco edition Xbox controller -> http://t.co/EPAMfVnhLh

[Anybodyhome]

The short-sighted, single focus, lack of big picture recognition astounds me.

Joe Flacco was drafted one spot ahead of Carolina's pick Jeff Otah in 2008. I guarantee you everyone on this board would be crying the blues this morning had he been passed over by Carolina by one pick.

Joe Flacco has started every game in his 5 years in Baltimore. None of the other "elite" QBs mentioned (Rodgers, Manning 1, Manning 2, Brady, Rothliesberger, etc) have accomplished that in the last 5 years.

Joe Flacco has led his team to the playoffs in each of his 5 seasons as the starting QB- something no other QB in the Super Bowl era has ever done.

And as far as anyone should be concerned, that's all that matters. You can't win rings unless you get to the post season and Joe Flacco has put them in a position to do just that in each of his first 5 years in the league.

2008: 11-5
2009: 12-4
2010: 12-4
2011: 12-4
2012: 10-6

Yeah, that sucks. No way he should be the highest paid QB in the league.

You all know this- if Carolina had the option to select Flacco instead of Otah and Carolina's record looked like this for the last 5 years, you'd all be screaming at JR to pay Flacco whatever he wants.

[Anybodyhome]

In fairness, at this moment he's accounted for an equal number of Ravens Super Bowl victories as Trent Dilfer.

Flacco is better than Dilfer. Nobody would need to convince me of that.

Better than Rodgers, Brees, Peyton and Brady? You're gonna have to sell me on that notion.

Well, you first compared Flacco to Dilfer based upon the number of Super Bowl rings and then said it was no comparison as to who is the better QB. So, your clever disclaimer which covers you on both sides of your argument leaves little room for you to be incorrect.

Except for the fact that Flacco has won more games and been to the post season more times in the last 5 years than anyone on your list- so give some credit for that. And, he also has just as many rings as Brees, Rodgers and Peyton, too, not just Dilfer. Or did you just conveniently leave that part of the equation out?

[rayzor]

The short-sighted, single focus, lack of big picture recognition astounds me.

Joe Flacco was drafted one spot ahead of Carolina's pick Jeff Otah in 2008. I guarantee you everyone on this board would be crying the blues this morning had he been passed over by Carolina by one pick.

Joe Flacco has started every game in his 5 years in Baltimore. None of the other "elite" QBs mentioned (Rodgers, Manning 1, Manning 2, Brady, Rothliesberger, etc) have accomplished that in the last 5 years.

Joe Flacco has led his team to the playoffs in each of his 5 seasons as the starting QB- something no other QB in the Super Bowl era has ever done.

And as far as anyone should be concerned, that's all that matters. You can't win rings unless you get to the post season and Joe Flacco has put them in a position to do just that in each of his first 5 years in the league.

2008: 11-5
2009: 12-4
2010: 12-4
2011: 12-4
2012: 10-6

Yeah, that sucks. No way he should be the highest paid QB in the league.

You all know this- if Carolina had the option to select Flacco instead of Otah and Carolina's record looked like this for the last 5 years, you'd all be screaming at JR to pay Flacco whatever he wants.

i actually agree with all of that and the scary thing is that it wasn't until the second half of the season that things actually clicked for him.

he was solid before that, now he's great.

[iampantherman]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Joe Flacco is undervalued in the collective minds of NFL fans. (Certainly not by his new contract.) His poise under pressure and big arm are elite, and those two attributes are a big reason why he's got a 9-4 post-season record- already tied for 10th in all-time post-season wins- and just completed a post-season with an 11 td 0 int stretch. Sure he's benefited from very good/ sometimes great defenses, but he was the best QB this post-season. In the midst of this QB/ offense-first era, he was the QB who stood out among all the other "elite" QBs out there, and got the job done. I'd take him on the Panthers in a heart-beat if we weren't married to Cam.