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#1 sml1950


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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:37 PM

Was going home the w/e instead of to the MIT Sloan conference (http://www.sloansportsconference.com/) In Boston. According to an interview on NFL Sirius, 18 NFL teams sent reps and if the Panthers were there I assume Gettleman would have gone. Much of the conference was oriented to the analytic/metrics that was used in baseball to make decisions on players and game situations. Basically using stats to guide all decision-making is iffy on a individual game basis, but is interesting when the sample size is large enough. Whether one buys into it or not, I was hoping the we would be open to new ideas and at least keep up with what others may be doing. Some of the individual topics on the agenda (http://www.sloanspor...m/?page_id=9880) seem interesting.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:51 PM

I don't think that because gettlemen wasn't there that other scouts from our team were also not there. There's only one gettlemen. There's many scouts.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:56 PM

I'm not disappointed that I don't care whether he went or not.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 03:07 PM

lol who fuging cares. I have no idea what you are talking about but it sounds stupid

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 03:10 PM

Offseason, gotta love it.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 03:14 PM

How do you know he didn't attend a previous coference as part of the Giants staff? They've held it since 2007. wtf

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 03:15 PM

I know people that were there. Many teams had their scouts out in the open.

- The following NFL teams had people at the event (from what I could tell or find out from the attendees list), with what I’m guessing is a focus on recruiting for their scouting and analytics departments.
- The Atlanta Falcons (2)
- The Buffalo Bills (2)
- The Cleveland Browns (1)
- The Dallas Cowboys (6)
- The Denver Broncos (1)
- The Detroit Lions (1)
- The Jacksonville Jaguars (4)
- The Kansas City Chiefs (1)
- The New England Patriots (14)
- The New Orleans Saints (2)
- The New York Giants (2)
- The Oakland Raiders (1)
- The Philadelphia Eagles (4)
- The San Francisco 49ers (5)
- The St. Louis Rams (2)

This isn't to say the PAnthers didn't have people there and I can't imagine they didn't. The Giants had two scouts there, so surely Gettleman would have sent someone.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 03:17 PM

Football Analytics
My second favorite panel of the event, with Kevin Demoff, Scott Pioli, Paraag Marathe, and Aaron Schatz (moderated by Andrea Kramer, who did a great job). A discussion of talent evaluation in the NFL, analytics, and where the sport is headed. Pioli talked about how important draft picks are, which led to a discussion of the RG3 trade the Rams made a year prior. Schatz was generally against the trade and the idea of teams trading next year’s better pick for this year’s worse ones. Interestingly, Demoff pointed out that trading for more picks next year usually happens when a team’s coach is relatively new and under contract for another 2-3 years. He suggested that having a coach on the last year of his contract had a big effect on draft strategy. Surprisingly, Demoff didn’t seem super-convinced that the trade with the Skins was a bad deal for them (though I’m not sure that the NFC East win is the best barometer, as he suggested).

Another interesting point that came up was how teams use analytics to figure out if it’s worth it to pick up injured players, and how to evaluate guys coming off injury. There wasn’t a lot of agreement here, particularly with the fast return of guys like Peterson in the past year.

Monday Morning QB: Coaching and In-Game Statistics
The best panel of the event. I could have watched this for another 2-3 hours at least. Herm Edwards, Jack Del Rio, Advanced NFL Stats founder Brian Burke, and Thomas Dimitroff. Moderated by Tony Reali from Around the Horn, who did a decent job. Basically, Reali would show a game situation, then ask the coaches and Dimitroff on how they’d approach it, then ask Burke about what the stats say for that particular situation. Edwards was hilarious, particularly when they reviewed his decision to go for 2 against the Chargers a few years ago (he has apparently never gotten over having to start Tyler Thigpen). Other situations reviewed: MJD downing the ball at the 1 yard line, the Ravens’ field goal fake in the super bowl, and the Pats-Colts game a few years ago where the Pats had to determine whether to let the Colts score on their last drive of the game. Burke made some great points about stats presenting the “break even” point to coaches when making decisions, rather than giving them the play call or telling them specifically what to do. Herm actually made a good point about how coaches have to keep teams motivated and act as effective managers beyond just the decisions they make in the game, which I feel can often get overlooked on the stats side.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 03:42 PM

pats have half as much invested as everyone else combined.

fiz do you have a source

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 03:51 PM

meh, he's been doing this kind of thing for years. i doubt he would learn much from this.

he said one of the things he's going to be doing is giving the staff in carolina the tools and i would assume the training to do what he's been doing.

it's not a big deal at all.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:01 PM

I rather gettleman be working on fixing hurneys mess with these contracts and righting the ship than some bs like that.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 04:08 PM

If you have to end your thread title with an elypsis in order to draw up some intrigue so people click on it, you should take that as an indicator that the thread is not worth starting.