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Ivan The Awesome

Pat McCrory says there is no money for the stadium.

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Has this thread now compared the Panthers to Apple and Google?

Really now ?

People won't go to the games b/c the WiFi is weak ? Well maybe in Charlotte...

Shame Richardson hasn't put this much effort into putting together a winning team...

I'm 100% with you on the product sucking and am just as pissed. However, the city and state need to kick in like they do for every other corporate project or special interest money grab.

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Its a comparison, if you could not figure it out...wow.

JR has next to zero risk (PSL/Football TV Deals) on a 300+ million investment that is now worth 1 Billion. He basically threw a season a few years ago b/c (lol at this) he wanted to make sure the FO people kept getting paid and wanted to protect his own pocket. His franchise has NEVER had consistent winning teams, he has NEVER embraced the community on a media level and despite his promises to be more visible his most recent appearances have been nothing more than posturing to take TAXpayer money to pay for HIS stadium.

NFL players usually risk life and limb to make on average (guessing) 400K for 5 years... so 2 million, but they are the ungrateful overpaid evil people here.

One person here is working to improve themselves without asking money from people much much less wealthy than themselves. The other produces a poo product and plays on the hopes and fears of his customers.

yeah.

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I'm 100% with you on the product sucking and am just as pissed. However, the city and state need to kick in like they do for every other corporate project or special interest money grab.

An argument can be made for the City, giving "something", but for the state it's not a good investment.

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I am consistently impressed on the fleece job the Panthers FO puts over on fans.

I was once too blind, but now I see.

If you can find me 5 other NFL franchises that have cost the taxpayers less money than the Panthers have I will give you a nickel (times are tough, that is all i can spare)

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I don't believe #5 for a hot minute.

I understand govt giving out money to promote business. I'd be fine with money for a baseball stadium and giving money to google to build a data warehouse but these are for renovations. There's no return.

You should, we know how Carolina fans are by now...just look at the seats after halftime. And I have heard about players not liking the faculties and siging else where, in a close choice. Take it as you will...

The return is, JR does not decide to move the team elsewhere. May not happen this or next, but if he decides to move over this...they will evently.

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Well then it's the taxpayers responsibility to fix it

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200 million granted for 100 temp jobs ?

Wifi! and escalators!

FREE AGENTS NEED MOAR WIFI!

Im sold!

Jobs are jobs. See Obama's infrastructure plan. He doesn't distinguish between temp jobs and full time jobs.

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Shovel ready...

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Well then it's the taxpayers responsibility to fix it

Appearently you didn't read the list, the team is taking on most of the cost...wow, again.

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An argument can be made for the City, giving "something", but for the state it's not a good investment.

Chiquita got $22 million from the city AND state to relocate here from Cincy. That was for an estimated 400 jobs. Siemens got $22 million from NC for their expansion in Charlotte. What did they add, a few hundred jobs? The Panthers should get state and local funding.

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Jobs are jobs. See Obama's infrastructure plan. He doesn't distinguish between temp jobs and full time jobs.

That isn't helping your case :)

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Chiquita got $22 million from the city AND state to relocate here from Cincy. That was for an estimated 400 jobs. Siemens got $22 million from NC for their expansion in Charlotte. What did they add, a few hundred jobs? The Panthers should get state and local funding.

You know better than this comparison.

I wonder how many folks from simiens will leave their jobs to serve hohos in the new club seats...

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