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Bucky Brooks' latest mock (has us passing on Patterson). Hmmph.


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#151 Happy Panther

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 02:59 PM

The main question is whether or not any of these guys, including Patterson, worthy of a pick at 14, and how quickly they could make an impact.


True. But he could play as our #3 until smitty wants to start playing slot or decides to retire.

I bet he goes before #14 though

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 07:26 PM

Historically the top player at all skill positions are gone within the first 15 to 20 picks regardless of where they grade out. It is very likely that he wont be there when we pick just because he might be the best WR in the draft. Reaching is a fact of life in draft.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 09:17 PM













Can you really sit here and say you can't see a difference? How Hopkins and Hunter ****** the ball out the air and how Patterson is fighting with it.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 09:35 PM

the question with Patterson is if you think he can learn these things because his athletic ability is through the roof. It's all about wanting the best bang for your buck. Do you think Patterson can become an elite talent or do you think Hunter or Hopkins are better options because they are more complete right now? I choose Patterson strictly from the standpoint that even if he fails to see his "roof" he will still be an impact player. While I think Hunter and even Hopkins will be good players, Patterson excites in a way that few players are able to. Patterson catches with his body, doesn't extend his arms and runs shitty routes. All those things are very coachable. Not trying to start ANOTHER discussion about Patterson but this is how I view things.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 09:48 PM

the question with Patterson is if you think he can learn these things because his athletic ability is through the roof. It's all about wanting the best bang for your buck. Do you think Patterson can become an elite talent or do you think Hunter or Hopkins are better options because they are more complete right now? I choose Patterson strictly from the standpoint that even if he fails to see his "roof" he will still be an impact player. While I think Hunter and even Hopkins will be good players, Patterson excites in a way that few players are able to. Patterson catches with his body, doesn't extend his arms and runs shitty routes. All those things are very coachable. Not trying to start ANOTHER discussion about Patterson but this is how I view things.


That's what I'm thinking. You are not gonna pass on a guy you absolutely think is going to be a beast, even if if is not NFL-ready on draft day. It's all going to come down to his workouts and what Gettleman thinks.


BTW, ButWhysTheRumGone sounds like a good name for a race horse.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:04 PM

yea, queue the Toby Keith Beer for my horses video, except i hate Toby Keith (ripped off many a good artist, Robert Earl Keen). But back to Patterson. Once again it all depends on who is there at 14, and who we pass over with that pick if we do decide on Patterson. But I think he is gonna be sensational, regardless if he turns into an Elite receiver.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:08 PM

Why does kkl have some kind of weird fetish with corrdarelle patterson?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:28 PM

Why does kkl have some kind of weird fetish with corrdarelle patterson?

It's an ongoing thing...I've asked him, he just has an inverted boner for Patterson.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:25 PM

Why does kkl have some kind of weird fetish with corrdarelle patterson?


So did you just by pass all the other poster pointing out Patterson flaws on your way to questioning me for doing the same thing?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:43 PM

So did you just by pass all the other poster pointing out Patterson flaws on your way to questioning me for doing the same thing?


Come on, you know you are the top dawg for pointing out his flaws.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:47 PM

Allen or Patterson would be nice but if you go DT you help 2 positions (both the D-line and our secondary thru a better pass rush/collapsed pocket). Kalil is coming back which makes the O-line instantly better so my vote is DT in the first, then CB or S in the second.
I don't think Smitty's replacement comes to us this year.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:48 PM

the question with Patterson is if you think he can learn these things because his athletic ability is through the roof. It's all about wanting the best bang for your buck. Do you think Patterson can become an elite talent or do you think Hunter or Hopkins are better options because they are more complete right now? I choose Patterson strictly from the standpoint that even if he fails to see his "roof" he will still be an impact player. While I think Hunter and even Hopkins will be good players, Patterson excites in a way that few players are able to. Patterson catches with his body, doesn't extend his arms and runs shitty routes. All those things are very coachable. Not trying to start ANOTHER discussion about Patterson but this is how I view things.



Player


School


Height


Weight


Off. 40 Time


Unoff. 40 Time


10-Yd Split


Vert


Broad


Arms


Hand





Justin Hunter


Tennessee


6-4


196


4.44


4.41


1.54


39.5


136


33.28


9.38




Cordarrelle Patterson


Tennessee


6-2


216


4.42


4.37


1.55


37


128


31.68


9.08



Deandre Hopkins


Clemson


6-1


214


4.57


4.50


1.59


36


115


33.38


10.08




So Hunter is taller longer .02 slower (coming off a acl injury) jumps higher and has bigger hands.

And While Hopkins is slower and shorter he has bigger hands and very explosive in his own right.
Not to mention he produced 82 rec. 1,405 yards and 18TD!!!

So with all this data I put in front of you I have a few questions.

1. What makes Patterson "athletic ability" thru the roof and why does he have a chance to be a elite talent and Hunter's doesn't?

2. Does 18TD not excite you?

3. What would be more bang for our bucks? A guy learning how to be a WR or 2 guys who already know?

4. Doesn't the fact that Hunter and Hopkins have already been number 1 WR on a team. Give them a better chance then Patterson of becoming 1 in the Pro's?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:50 PM

drum rolll here we go..............

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:52 PM

I'm not biting. we have discussed this ad nauseum

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:55 PM

Raw is made up of shades, and no two raw players are the same, so comparisons are pointless.

Some players, like Cam, are considered raw because they haven't done something (like take snaps from under center or reading a defense) and people assume it will take time for them to learn how...if they can ever learn it. But others, like Patterson, are considered raw because we have seen them do everything they will be expected to do in the NFL, but have clear weaknesses that must be corrected before they can live up to their potential.

I like Patterson, and was high on the possibility of taking him at 14. However, the more I hear and see about him, the more wary I become. There is no doubt that he is explosive...particularly with the ball in his hands in the open field. My concern comes with pretty much every other aspect of his game. They were talking the other night on Path to the Draft about how he jumps for most balls, even when he doesn't need to, and that receivers like that are almost always body catchers...and when I watch clips of him, that is exactly what I see. He also is not a skilled route runner at this point. And from what I have heard and read, he is not considered the most intelligent of guys and was not giving teams a good impression in the interviews at the combine.

With that said, I think he will be a good receiver, and definitely worth at least a 2nd, but I am not sold on the fact that he will fix his flaws to the extent that he will ever become a clear #1 receiver. But I do believe he can be at least a solid #2, so if we do take him, I think he does add value and makes the team better.

"Come on, you know you are the top dawg for pointing out his flaws. "


This is one of the best post I've seen about the Patterson situation and it didn't come from me.


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