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Wealth Inequality in America

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[quote name='Porn Shop Clerk' timestamp='1362590220' post='2152673']
yeah those people that never get a shot mostly live in other countries.

you're talking about ways of thinking implemented on the parenting level.
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can you quantify that? as i understand, mobility for those born in the middle class is still alive and well... not so much for those born into poverty. In fact we lag behind most of the west in our class fluidity.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/us/harder-for-americans-to-rise-from-lower-rungs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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[quote name='g5jamz' timestamp='1362590639' post='2152681']
Think PSC is saying he doesn't covet like you have a penchant to doing.
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are you talking to me?

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[quote name='mmmbeans' timestamp='1362590852' post='2152683']

can you quantify that? as i understand, mobility for those born in the middle class is still alive and well... not so much for those born into poverty. In fact we lag behind most of the west in our class fluidity.

[url="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/us/harder-for-americans-to-rise-from-lower-rungs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0"]http://www.nytimes.c...wanted=all&_r=0[/url]
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poverty in america = middle class througout the rest of the world

how many children starve to death in america every day? can anyone pull that statistic?

born into poverty. what a fuging joke.
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[quote name='g5jamz' timestamp='1362590639' post='2152681']
Think PSC is saying he doesn't covet like you have a penchant to doing.
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I don't get where you are forming this opinion from ?


Panthro is likely one of the "least concerned with what other people have" people I know.


I think he feels there is a significant Lack of Ladders to the Top. Especially for those born on the wrong side of the track.


While I feel this is partially true, what PSC is saying is also true.


Yes you were born in the trailer park.
Yes it's going to be harder for you than the kid whose parents make 1 Mill a year plus.
But that doesn't mean you can't be successful.

I think everyone can agree with that ?


If we could open more doorways to success for those who don't have it AND turn the corner on the defeatist culture that is prevalent (assumed) in lower income class brackets we could turn a corner not only as a country but as a generation.

Granted [img]http://demotivators.despair.com/demotivational/potentialdemotivator.jpg[/img]
is also true.


But that shouldn't be predetermined by where you were born or what race/sex you are.

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[quote name='g5jamz' timestamp='1362590639' post='2152681']
Think PSC is saying he doesn't covet like you have a penchant to doing.
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I don't covet anyone. I do really well for myself...of course you assume I covet because that's your mentality. Don't project

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some people just make better mechanics than they do neurosurgeons

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[quote name='Porn Shop Clerk' timestamp='1362591677' post='2152701']
some people just make better mechanics than they do neurosurgeons
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I agree 100% and there is absolutely nothing wrong with being either.

My thing is I don't want that to be decided by birth.


All this said, I still would wager that America is one of the most upwardly mobile countries in the world.

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I agree with Kurb.

Life is inherently unfair... moreso for some than others.

I think a BIG, HUGE part of the solution in America is our education system. It sucks. For a country of our vast wealth our education system is beyond pathetic.

[quote name='Porn Shop Clerk' timestamp='1362591677' post='2152701']
some people just make better mechanics than they do neurosurgeons
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This is true... and back to education, we do a crap job of identifying kids abilities and teaching them.
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[quote name='Porn Shop Clerk' timestamp='1362591677' post='2152701']
some people just make better mechanics than they do neurosurgeons
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I agree.

They pry make only 10x more too. Not that crazy...

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[quote name='nc_biscuit' timestamp='1362592166' post='2152707']
This is true... and back to education, we do a crap job of identifying kids abilities and teaching them.
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I may have posted this here but of of the biggest education turnoffs for students is calculus. It's high on the list of reasons for dropout. Future mechanics don't need calculus so don't make it a required subject. Mechanics can make tons of money.

With schools measured on test scores these days it is hard to do.

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[quote name='Happy Panther' timestamp='1362592348' post='2152711']


I may have posted this here but of of the biggest education turnoffs for students is calculus. It's high on the list of reasons for dropout. Future mechanics don't need calculus so don't make it a required subject. Mechanics can make tons of money.

With schools measured on test scores these days it is hard to do.
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My son took the ACT in school yesterday... the entire eleventh grade had to take it. Are all of those kids going to college? No.

I can see how it turns kids off from school.

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