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#145 Kurb

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:21 AM

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Oh I knew you had been out of school for awhile. Just musing about the site and its members. Glad to hear you are doing well for yourself.




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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:32 AM

you sure do have a pretty nuanced definition of "hard work" if "poo that privileged people go to college to avoid entirely" doesn't factor in at all

whoa wait a minute i thought the secret to being employmed or just not being poor was "being smart" and "working hard". is it:

or

is it important to be smart and work hard, or is it important to fill a particular niche? or is it important blow your way to the top, as hinted by tensor?


I hate that this needs to be preferenced, but hard and/or smart work are always going to be better options than your assertion that our entire economic and political system(s) needs to be blown-up because hundreds of years ago people were slaves. Granted I don't aspire to to be as dramatic as you, but that seems slightly unnecessary considering we have still people coming to this country today who with (gasp!) hard work and an emphasis on education that are improving their lot in life in one generation.


you're right, it's not the fault of the parasitic elites; it's our flawed economic system that allows one person to manage capital and "earn" hundreds of times more than the median income for work that is certainly not hundreds of times more difficult, while the true producers of our society endure wage slavery. if any one group of people is to blame, it's the middle and upper-middle classes who perpetuate this broken system because they've bought into this "just be smart and work hard and one day you'll be super rich" bullshit


I'll thank you to reference my previous post about not giving a poo about your pipe/wet dreams of a socialist society. I already went through this exercise when I got my liberal arts degree from a state univerisity.

btw the people i referred to worked for an organization that helped people recently released from prison to reintegrate. among other things, they helped to build their resumes, taught them how to conduct themselves in an interview, and provided temporary rooms, contingent upon their continuous search for a job (while also providing in-house work opportunities like landscaping). it's tough to argue that their work "isn't valuable" (unless you don't understand things like recidivism rates); it's just not valuable to the people who control the majority of the wealth in america. it's silly to think that value is accurately represented by profitability, as that line of thought ignores social costs and benefits.


That's great. I think that's a commendable service those people are providing, and I think it's commendable that those former inmates see the value of actually being members of a society where they earn what they have, not just hoping that the government hands them money siphoned off of the rich. Because if that's what you're hoping for, what's the point of trying to rehabilitate these people at all?

as wealth inequality increases, what other option is there?*

*note: libertarian fan-fic isn't an option


I'm not entirely against the idea that the wealth gap is widening too far for our own good in this country. I am, however, against the idea that it's so wide and unattainable that the only way it can be fxed is with government intervention. I also wildly reject the idea that we just had more revenue to give to the government to fund these programs that everything would be ok.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:20 PM

Hey, our system sucks


but its better than a lot of other systems.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:54 AM

This thread is exactly what you would expect.

Those who haven't achieved success in the professional lives are bitching about those that have.

Much easier to whine, bitch, complain, and blame someone else...than to have personal accountability, work hard in school, get an education, work hard every day, and make a financial success out you their lives.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:18 AM

Hey, our system sucks


but its better than a lot of other systems.


Agreed. Now let's stop exacerbating the issue by telling people it's so horribly stacked against them that it's not worth even trying.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:32 PM

I worked hard and i consider myself very successful.

I still think the wealth inequilaity gap is one of the major issues with the county and more specifically the economy.

So since how would you respond to me since im not jealous of your "success"

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 03:22 PM

If you're referring to me, I've already answered that literally four posts above.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 03:36 PM

is it important to be smart and work hard, or is it important to fill a particular niche? or is it important blow your way to the top, as hinted by tensor?


Go fug yourself.

That isn't what I was hinting. I didn't have to do a god damn thing and I never went out of my way for anything. I've been very lucky through very little of my own doing...which was my point. Sometimes you don't have to do anything. Instead you luck your way up the ladder. Some are lucky enough to be born on top of the ladder.

I'm hardly what I would call "successful" anyway. I make a solid, but not spectacular salary (less than six figures). The takeaway from my post should have been that sometimes you don't have to work hard to do alright for yourself. It doesn't always require hard work, exceptional intelligence, or any of the other poo you hear people attribute to their success. Everyone thinks they work hard, but few actually do.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:51 PM

If you're referring to me, I've already answered that literally four posts above.

no i was more address Hatter's assertion that if you have a problem with wealth inequality then your a lazy fug.

I do ok for myself. Six figure range which i wouldnt call rich but it clearly isnt doing bad either. I still think wealth inequality is one of the greatest dangers we face.

I dont think the answer is as simple as "tax the rich" but having that much wealth in the control of so few holds the country back.



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Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:20 PM

that is the crux of the matter, if trickle down worked all that wealth would not have shifted the way it has. It's really criminal, as it takes the US economy and makes it unable to respond to opportunities to benefit all, and puts too much stock in the decisions of a few people.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:11 PM

there is also an inverse relationship with public education. while this thread is about wealth inequality, that doesn't seem to be the case in spending per schools. schools that are "under performing" get MORE money per pupil than schools that are doing well.

that alone reveals it isn't always about resources and access.

everything. and i mean EVERYTHING, starts at home.

at times, like govt interventions in some areas of society, it can create a bubble that isn't there. as schools try to manufacture better test scores or hide bad test scores, it does more harm than good.

that may be a thread unto itself though.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:28 AM

Wat?


your post began with "i got a master's" and i stopped reading because come on now, seriously