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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:12 PM

i know people with master's degrees who were just told that they'll be laid off due to federal (and as a result, state) budget concerns; people who were working poor as it was. being smart and working hard doesn't really mean poo WRT wealth and less than you'd think WRT employment

oh btw check out just about any warehouse environment and you'll find plenty of people who literally work harder than some multi-millionaire hedge fund manager yet still live below the poverty line. capitalist society rewards the ownership of capital, NOT "how hard you work"


Outside of me getting into a Capitalism vs Socialism debate which I could not care less about doing, you're equating manual labor with literal hard work.

Just as the case with the people you referenced that are out of work with masters degrees, people are usually compensated based on how hard they are to replace or how much revenue they produce. Outside of that, compensation is typically commensurate with a person's inability to fill one or both of those niches.

Hate to break the bad news to you, but it's not that big, bad mean old hedge fund manager's fault that those Master's Degrees your friends have may not be as valuable as they had hoped, and that the warehouse worker could be replaced with relative ease comparatively. If it makes you feel any better, that sinister HFM will also end up paying more in taxes in a couple years than everyone in that warehouse combined over their entire life.

The point I was and continue to make is this: if we think our financial concerns as a country would be best solved by increased taxation of the rich, we're going to continue blaming a problem we don't really have.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:44 PM

i know people with master's degrees who were just told that they'll be laid off due to federal (and as a result, state) budget concerns; people who were working poor as it was. being smart and working hard doesn't really mean poo WRT wealth and less than you'd think WRT employment

oh btw check out just about any warehouse environment and you'll find plenty of people who literally work harder than some multi-millionaire hedge fund manager yet still live below the poverty line. capitalist society rewards the ownership of capital, NOT "how hard you work"


Work smarter and harder, don't get in a wad because some people have what it takes to get to the top.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:46 PM

agreed

we can start by returning the wealth and resources stolen from undeveloped countries by american and european capitalists for centuries


Why don't you start your own company and pay all of your employees an equal wage with free healthcare and see how long it takes for you to shut down?

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:51 PM

You don't really have to work smarter or harder. In a lot of cases you just have to be likable and in with the right people.

I probably do less work than everyone else in my position at my company but I get paid more than all of them...and will soon be their boss...simply because the president likes me. I chat with him and joke with him regularly, but my quality of work is no better than the rest of the people in my position.

I made about 25% more than most of them and my bonus was 15x greater than what some of the others in my position got...why? It certainly wasn't because I worked any harder. I just know how to make people think I'm an excellent employee and that I know more than I really do.

Bullshitting is a big part of business, but it doesn't make you a better employee. I'm not a bad employee, there is just no real way to justify why I make more than my co-workers.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 05:33 PM

You don't really have to work smarter or harder. In a lot of cases you just have to be likable and in with the right people.

I probably do less work than everyone else in my position at my company but I get paid more than all of them...and will soon be their boss...simply because the president likes me. I chat with him and joke with him regularly, but my quality of work is no better than the rest of the people in my position.

I made about 25% more than most of them and my bonus was 15x greater than what some of the others in my position got...why? It certainly wasn't because I worked any harder. I just know how to make people think I'm an excellent employee and that I know more than I really do.

Bullshitting is a big part of business, but it doesn't make you a better employee. I'm not a bad employee, there is just no real way to justify why I make more than my co-workers.


Depends on the business but being a brown nosier usually helps too.... :phew:

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 05:44 PM

You don't really have to work smarter or harder. In a lot of cases you just have to be likable and in with the right people.

I probably do less work than everyone else in my position at my company but I get paid more than all of them...and will soon be their boss...simply because the president likes me. I chat with him and joke with him regularly, but my quality of work is no better than the rest of the people in my position.

I made about 25% more than most of them and my bonus was 15x greater than what some of the others in my position got...why? It certainly wasn't because I worked any harder. I just know how to make people think I'm an excellent employee and that I know more than I really do.

Bullshitting is a big part of business, but it doesn't make you a better employee. I'm not a bad employee, there is just no real way to justify why I make more than my co-workers.


What are you doing for work tensor? Feels like just yesterday you were signed on the board from high school.....

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:22 AM

What are you doing for work tensor? Feels like just yesterday you were signed on the board from high school.....


I work for a digital marketing company. I primarily write content for websites and audit existing websites. Anything from medium sized home service companies to a few relatively major brands.I'm in the process of starting a new division that focuses on small business owners for businesses doing less than $1MM in revenue. It has been a long time since high school. I've been out of college for almost four years now.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:10 AM

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lol don't pretend like you went to grad school

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:18 AM

Awesome. So how much do you owe, and who gets it?


i, along with every other advantaged american, owe our lives to those responsible for the success of america (hint: they're not pasty, pudgy libertarians). we'll start with native americans and descendants of slaves here in america and work our way around the world. glad we could clear this up

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:25 AM

Why don't you start your own company and pay all of your employees an equal wage with free healthcare and see how long it takes for you to shut down?


your post has absolutely nothing to do with the post that you quoted. try reading sometime or not it's whatever

also lol @ a post that amounts to "why don't you do something that the system is purposefully designed to reject and then see how well you do???? checkmate, libs"

Work smarter and harder, don't get in a wad because some people have what it takes to get to the top.


don't you sell cars for a living? should i take this to mean that you haven't worked particularly hard or "smart?" that "you don't have what it takes to get to the top?" because let's just say you're not on the fast track to 1%-land and i'm curious as to why you breathlessly defend the rich when tbqh they wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire


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