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#101 mav1234

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:52 PM

beginning to wonder if this isn't saber rattling so the new leader can get a new treaty/deal from the West to show his people how he has everyone frightened.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:52 PM

beginning to wonder if this isn't saber rattling so the new leader can get a new treaty/deal from the West to show his people how he has everyone frightened.

#103 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:37 PM

I use to always vote majority republican, it was long wars,big spending and attacks on personal freedoms that pushed me to start voting for dems.


Sounds like FDR to me.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:00 PM

Sounds like FDR to me.


That's because you're unwilling to self criticize.

#105 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:30 PM

That's because you're unwilling to self criticize.



Not sure what that means. I wasn't president, so how would my self criticism matter irt this discussion. Unless you are referring to voting, and if that is the case, then I didn't vote for GWB in 2004 because he was an incompetent fool, far worse than our current president.

FDR got us embroiled in a shooting war with Germany, spent a lot of money on it, and rounded up US citizens and put them in camps. Yes, he definitely was right to move us towards war with Germany, but only in hindsight did many people realize that he was right. And he actually did a lot more to infringe on personal freedoms than GWB ever did.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:10 AM

http://news.yahoo.co...9--finance.html

But in the latest sign that North Korea's warlike stance toward South Korea and the United States is moving from words to action, Pyongyang on Wednesday barred South Korean managers and trucks delivering supplies from crossing the border to enter the Kaesong industrial park. It's an announcement that further escalates a torrent of provocations analysts say is aimed at pressuring the U.S. and South Korea to change their policies toward Pyongyang.



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:43 AM

Not sure what that means. I wasn't president, so how would my self criticism matter irt this discussion. Unless you are referring to voting, and if that is the case, then I didn't vote for GWB in 2004 because he was an incompetent fool, far worse than our current president.

FDR got us embroiled in a shooting war with Germany, spent a lot of money on it, and rounded up US citizens and put them in camps. Yes, he definitely was right to move us towards war with Germany, but only in hindsight did many people realize that he was right. And he actually did a lot more to infringe on personal freedoms than GWB ever did.


I figured anyone diverting my claim about Bush to a President from the 30's and 40's was a Bush voting Republican.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

lol

No, i just have zero desire to get into another war. I'd wait til they do something pretty bad and then just wipe them out and be done with it. We don't have the money or stomach to get into a long drawn out fight with another country.


And by 'them' you mean?

#109 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:04 PM

I figured anyone diverting my claim about Bush to a President from the 30's and 40's was a Bush voting Republican.

Wasn't really intended as a diversion, more as a historical comparison, specifically in the context of civil rights during a time of crisis. I probably shouldn't have added the comparison about getting us into a shooting war with Germany, because there isn't much similarity between 1941 Germany and 2003 Iraq, but from a civil rights perspective, it is an interesting comparison. Bush was lambasted for the patriot act, while Roosevelt receives very little criticism for having Japanese put in camps. Lots of people criticise the US government for the interment, but very little of that is directed at FDR.

Fwiw, GWB lost my vote when he created the department of homeland insecurity. That boondoggle will be with us for many years to come, and will likely end up being his most lasting legacy unfortunately.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:23 PM

This is truly getting fugging ridiculous.

N. Korea approves nuclear strike on United States
By Jung Ha-Won (AFP) – 5 hours ago
SEOUL — North Korea dramatically escalated its warlike rhetoric on Thursday, warning that it had authorised plans for nuclear strikes on targets in the United States.
"The moment of explosion is approaching fast," the North Korean military said, warning that war could break out "today or tomorrow".
Pyongyang's latest pronouncement came as Washington scrambled to reinforce its Pacific missile defences, preparing to send ground-based interceptors to Guam and dispatching two Aegis class destroyers to the region.
Tension was also high on the North's heavily fortified border with South Korea, after Kim Jong-Un's isolated regime barred South Koreans from entering a Seoul-funded joint industrial park on its side of the frontier.
In a statement published by the state KCNA news agency, the Korean People's Army general staff warned Washington that US threats would be "smashed by... cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means".
"The merciless operation of our revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified," the statement said.


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