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#46 mmmbeans

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:29 AM

at this point, i'm more concerned that china and japan get into a shooting war.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:42 AM

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:01 PM

at this point, i'm more concerned that china and japan get into a shooting war.


My concern is Pakistan and India. IMO, its the hottest spot in the world. More terrorist attacks along the lines of Mumbai could push the Indians into doing something that would trigger a conflict between the two. Since they both have nukes, there is a decent chance they might use them. Not only would this cause a lot of death and misery, its effect on the world's enviroment and economy would be serious.

While the US would be unlikely to become directly involved militarily, the impact on us and the rest of the world would be significant. Especially if we continue to maintain some kind of presence in Afghanistan.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:08 PM

My concern is Pakistan and India. IMO, its the hottest spot in the world. More terrorist attacks along the lines of Mumbai could push the Indians into doing something that would trigger a conflict between the two. Since they both have nukes, there is a decent chance they might use them. Not only would this cause a lot of death and misery, its effect on the world's enviroment and economy would be serious.

While the US would be unlikely to become directly involved militarily, the impact on us and the rest of the world would be significant. Especially if we continue to maintain some kind of presence in Afghanistan.



yea, absolutely... That whole thing's a powderkeg... my fear isn't terrorist attacks per-se but that the military in pakistan will lose power and be replaced by fundamentalist crazies... in which case you have a country that is far more unstable than iran or NK, ruled by irrational zealots... at which point war would be quite probable and the proliferation and sale of nuclear weapons and technology would be a near certainty. It would turn up everything in the middle east to 11and your scenario becomes a whole lot more probable. gah.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 07:40 AM

yea, absolutely... That whole thing's a powderkeg... my fear isn't terrorist attacks per-se but that the military in pakistan will lose power and be replaced by fundamentalist crazies... in which case you have a country that is far more unstable than iran or NK, ruled by irrational zealots... at which point war would be quite probable and the proliferation and sale of nuclear weapons and technology would be a near certainty. It would turn up everything in the middle east to 11and your scenario becomes a whole lot more probable. gah.


I don't think the military could really lose power in Pakistan though. They are to ingrained into society. But the military could come under the control of zealots. Which would definitely be a bad thing for the region.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:02 AM

I don't think the military could really lose power in Pakistan though. They are to ingrained into society. But the military could come under the control of zealots. Which would definitely be a bad thing for the region.


right, i meant more the secular(ish) leadership than the army as an institution.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:26 PM

The way Korea is going, I would not be surprised if we didn't have to step in, because they seemed to have backed themselves in a corner.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:39 AM

i don't think it will be a large scale but something is going to go down with NK. they keep pushing the envelope and i think its beyond saber rattling.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:57 AM

Agree that it would not be a large scale conflict with NK. I do worry about the implications however with China. I suppose monetary concerns are chief.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:29 AM

Agree that it would not be a large scale conflict with NK. I do worry about the implications however with China. I suppose monetary concerns are chief.

I don't think China will mind what we do with NK.

NK has to be an annoyance at this point.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:34 AM

Even if it involves regime change?

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:34 AM

Even if it involves regime change?

I don't think China will care. NK is still living by old communist ideals. China has evolved beyond that to be more of a mixture of free market and socialist policies. China is hardly a free society, but it is paradise compared to NK.

I don't think China would want a western influenced government in NK like there is in SK, but NK doesn't really represent their ideals any longer and I'm sure they would not be too upset with a regime change.

Just my opinion of course.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:01 AM

If there is regime change in NK I suspect China will very much involved. They arent known for acting passively when it comes to regional politics.

Something has to change in North Korea eventually, though I have though that for a while and their leadership still seems content to stay the course

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:08 AM

this poo's about to get real in my opinion

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:12 AM

Like I said, the 28 year old moron leader has backed himself in a corner. Keeps upping the ante.


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