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#61 Lords0fPain

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:06 PM

And one last point. Why in the hell do people keep saying old WHITE guy. As if we all walk up to the vending machine of life and choose our race. Would we say Bob Johnson former Bobcat owner is is an old rich Black guy, in every opinion on him?



It's ok to say "old rich white guy" (as he is evil and greedy just for that), your example is racist cause it uses the word "black". Get with today's (in our country) double standards, already..lol

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:07 PM

And one last point. Why in the hell do people keep saying old WHITE guy. As if we all walk up to the vending machine of life and choose our race. Would we say Bob Johnson former Bobcat owner is is an old rich Black guy, in every opinion on him?


There is a stigma attached to old rich white guy. Not as much for old rich black guy.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:11 PM

Dallas refused to give public funds for a new stadium, which is why the Cowboys moved to Irving in the 70's. Irving recently refused to give Jones his improvements, so he built Jerry World in Arlington when they gave him a sweetheart deal.

And yes, with the promised boom to the economy still not happening, traffic clogging up to a full stop on Sundays, and city budget shortfalls, there are certainly some grumblings in Arlington that they sure could have used the hundreds of millions they forked over to get the Cowboys.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:14 PM

Dallas refused to give public funds for a new stadium, which is why the Cowboys moved to Irving in the 70's. Irving recently refused to give Jones his improvements, so he built Jerry World in Arlington when they gave him a sweetheart deal.

And yes, with the promised boom to the economy still not happening, traffic clogging up to a full stop on Sundays, and city budget shortfalls, there are certainly some grumblings in Arlington that they sure could have used the hundreds of millions they forked over to get the Cowboys.



so basically he moved the team to where the deal was...hmm, ok

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:23 PM

Couple of good reads:

"No two cities or sites are the same. That being the case, it is critical to realize that the stadium being proposed in any given community will undoubtedly produce a different set of results than any case study that will influence your decision-making."

http://www.umich.edu...tadium_subsidy/

Public financing of football stadiums: This is how they do it

http://minnesota.pub...9_stadium.shtml

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:30 PM

Charlotte's already ponied up their ransom money so I'm not sure what your point is there.

Investing into large public work projects have been shown time and again to be financial losers for local governments, so if those cities want the prestige of owning the team they've got to pay the price. You can look at it as a PR expense if you like.

End of the day, what NFL owners are doing is leveraging the local populace's emotional attachment to the team to more or less extort public money. Like Zod said, if there was a little more local emotional attachment to use as leverage, there probably wouldn't be all that much flack from most people on here.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:51 PM

Charlotte's already ponied up their ransom money so I'm not sure what your point is there.

Investing into large public work projects have been shown time and again to be financial losers for local governments, so if those cities want the prestige of owning the team they've got to pay the price. You can look at it as a PR expense if you like.

End of the day, what NFL owners are doing is leveraging the local populace's emotional attachment to the team to more or less extort public money. Like Zod said, if there was a little more local emotional attachment to use as leverage, there probably wouldn't be all that much flack from most people on here.


So, Charlotte does not need or want the Panthers in your opinion. And I willing to bet you you didn't read the whole thing, as to why you can't get the point. Though it wouldn't matter, as you have made your mind (no changing that...) up, anyway. Just don't cry about it, if and most likely, when the Panthers decide to leave Charlotte for a city that will.

All big businesses get help from the community (to relocate or even stay) one way or the other (and it almost always is in the form on money).

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:57 PM

Charlotte's already ponied up their ransom money so I'm not sure what your point is there.

Investing into large public work projects have been shown time and again to be financial losers for local governments, so if those cities want the prestige of owning the team they've got to pay the price. You can look at it as a PR expense if you like.

End of the day, what NFL owners are doing is leveraging the local populace's emotional attachment to the team to more or less extort public money. Like Zod said, if there was a little more local emotional attachment to use as leverage, there probably wouldn't be all that much flack from most people on here.



BTW- other sports ask for funding, too...not just the NFL..

#69 Lords0fPain

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 01:19 PM

Looks like Doldhins need public funds to get the NFL loan.

"The NFL’s stadium program isn’t a secret. Created in 2011 to replace a similar program, the NFL’s “G4” loan pool is reserved for stadiums with some public funding or contribution."

http://www.miamihera...or-stadium.html


Read more here: http://www.miamihera...l#storylink=cpy




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