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[TANTRIC-NINJA]

idk about tavon ....hes no jackson. hes more of a percy harvin type of guy.

which aint bad but i really like deep threat guy who can do both..


u noticed harvin and the welker types never have many tds........do slots ever go over 10 tds.... top tight ends have more of an impact then that in the redzone....

Welker does not score more than 6-7 tds..neither doew Steve Smith..but it has to be game planned for. There is a reason why Gronk had so many open looks...hi -lo options with a giant helps but you cannot forget that welker is always commanding eyes sometimes 2sets.

If you did not understand why Harvin was considered for MVp toward the end of the season you just dont watch him. He does a lot to get to the 5 yrd line where AP is getting in all respect.

[BigSyke]

Welker does not score more than 6-7 tds..neither doew Steve Smith..but it has to be game planned for. There is a reason why Gronk had so many open looks...hi -lo options with a giant helps but you cannot forget that welker is always commanding eyes sometimes 2sets.

If you did not understand why Harvin was considered for MVp toward the end of the season you just dont watch him. He does a lot to get to the 5 yrd line where AP is getting in all respect.

i understand..........but on avg slots aint scoring that many tds(10+). on avg deep threats are.

yeah i can give you a few deep threats that didnt score alot like smith but i cant give you ANY slots that score more than 10 tds.

[carolina-chuck]

Kind of want him at 14 now

[rcaddell23]

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Nobody listens to Mel.

He never missed a practice during his four years at WVA.... so...

[CPF4LIFE]

If they are questioning his long term durability then it doesnt sound like someone you take 14 overall, you always draft someone at the top of the draft with the hope of them being reliable for the long haul.

[Falcons1stPanthers2nd]

If they are questioning his long term durability then it doesnt sound like someone you take 14 overall, you always draft someone at the top of the draft with the hope of them being reliable for the long haul.

They said that cause he's small. Not cause he actually has durability concerns.

[CPF4LIFE]

They said that cause he's small. Not cause he actually has durability concerns.

I know that, it means both. Still, its something you have to consider. He may not be able to hold up in the NFL compared to college.

[RockyTopVol]

He kind of reminds me of Michael Crabtree...just way shorter.

[Falcons1stPanthers2nd]

I know that, it means both. Still, its something you have to consider. He may not be able to hold up in the NFL compared to college.

True. I just really like him

[jarhead]

1. We barley used the weapons we have already.

It took a whole season to use Tolbert.

We never used Barniage or Adams like we could have.

You are just adding another gimmick to a team who has to many gimmicks already. We were better when we ran a traditional offense and ran the ball down hill.

2. I can see adding a bigger target for the red zone and the fact that when Cam misses a pass he misses High. Which would be perfect for a Bigger WR.

3. I could see him in the Pats offense taking Welker's role but hear we need a actually WR who can become a #1 outside WR. Austin is a slot WR. You don't spend a top 15 pick on a slot WR unless.

Your one player from a superbowl and a slot wr is that position or you are changing the offense to feature a slot WR or you run a west coast or Patriot type offense. We are not in any of these situation..

That is a sad reason not to take him (we do not use the weapons we have).You cannot ignore his accomplishments and film compared to patterson. He is more than just a slot receiver and has the ability to move outside.He is a Sproil and harvin in one package

[jarhead]

From Mike Maytock:

Texas pass-catcher Marquise Goodwin and West Virginia wideout Tavon Austinwere two of the fastest wide receivers in the 40-yard dash Sunday at the NFL Scouting Combine.
And while both were fast, but they're not equal football players, said NFL Network's Mike Mayock and Charles Davis.




"In football pads, the good thing about Austin -- we don't know as much about Goodwin as a wideout -- I can tell you about Tavon Austin," Mayock told Rich Eisen. "You want to talk about one of the most electric players I've ever seen in college football. He put aperformance on against the University of Oklahoma that was one of the most amazing I've ever seen. Over 500 yards of offense -- he played mostly tailback."
Said Mayock: "In the NFL, it's all about matchups, and this young man is a matchup nightmare. What I love about (Austin), he's got good hands. We already know he can run, we know how quick he is. I know he's tough. And he's a game-changer."


Jeremiah: A run to riches
Daniel Jeremiah says there's no hotter prospect than Terron Armstead, who posted a stunning 40 time ... at 306 pounds! More ...
Charles Davis cites Austin as a legitimate threat who makes defenders miss in space. Even when men are in position, Austin finds a way to get past obstacles for chunks of real estate. The early read on Goodwin suggests an unfinished product.
"(Austin) is a football player who runs like a track athlete," Davis said. "Marquise Goodwin, in my opinion, is a track athlete trying to play the game of football. And it's a different deal."
Their speed alone means both men are assured an NFL home, but Austin might have helped himself as much as any skill player at the combine.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

i understand..........but on avg slots aint scoring that many tds(10+). on avg deep threats are.

yeah i can give you a few deep threats that didnt score alot like smith but i cant give you ANY slots that score more than 10 tds.

im not expecting him to score 10 tds year after year..only to pull down attention to open up others in the red zone bc if he is let go he will score.

Just like welker did in NE opens up teh run and the TEs.

Tamme will have a break out year in Denver bc of Welker.

[jarhead]

I will admit he would be an unorthodox pick but feel he will be a play maker watching footage of him.

Hall of Fame running back Marshall Faulk recently said that "Austin is Percy Harvin and Wes Welker rolled into one". Talk about some seriously high praise.

[BigSyke]

First off, you guys act like slotwr is the only way or the best way to strategize on a team.

I guess Dallas Clark was trash with Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne on the outside.

I guess Brandon Stokley didn't help win games because the middle of the field was wide open due to Marvin and Reggie making safetys play off. Which sets up mismatches if the olb is not a good cover guy.

Many teams have won the supebowl without a star slot, never seen many without a star deep threat.

Of course people bring up Brady, he was caught with spy gate and David Givens, while not a star, had an 18.5 avg.....that's a deep threat.

Also you guys act like you have to this super sonic speedster at the slot position, which is untrue. Welker only runs a 4.6, and he also was an UNDRAFTED FREE AGENT.

Dont't know why anyone is trying to spend a first round pick on a slotwr when there is clearly no need to, since they are just a pawn in the bigger game to score.

Also Brady never won the Superbowl with Welker used as a strategy. Also, Welker and Percy are very tough. Tavon is a little small which cause me too wonder if he can take constant punishment. You can't run out of bounds to avoid tackles while catching over the middle!.


Also, I don't know if you guys have been to NFL.com, but they are reporting that the NFL as a whole, does not really value slotwr. That's why guys like Mike Wallace get big pay checks and sotwr get chump change like Welker.

Now if you offer me a slotwr that can do both like Victor Cruz, then I'll be all in. Victor ran 50 percent of snaps from the outside and the rest from the slot.

He also has a Superbowl on his resume, hmmmm, wonder who he beat out?

See most people don't know that there are 3 different type of slotwr, but I'll go into that later.

[Squirrel]

You're still looking at Austin as a slot wr.