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#16 panther4life

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:20 PM

Every team builds through the draft. Some are just better than others in doing it. We have also built through free agency and through trades as well, but just not with big name folks. What annoys me is the constant accusations that we don't build through free agency when that is not the case at all. We just don't widely spend. Panther fans who have followed the team for the past 17 years know that we have tried that strategy many times almost always with average to poor results.


Remember chuck smith in 2000, 2 games for 21 million.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:21 PM

The team also started Carlos Rodgers, Donte Whitner, etc....pretty big FA signings in recent times. They also will gamble in FA with Moss, old Boldin etc


Damn right. They are doing poo the right way.


And for all you dolts that wouldn't know sarcasm if it was giving you a golden shower, I hope you all get Armanti Edwards jerseys for Christmas.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:25 PM

i agree even if panthers had bengals cap still no need to go crazy in fa.

see redskins and philly......you build through home grown drafted talent......people who LOVE fa have gms that dont know how to pick talent......

wouldnt mind a couple mid tier fa for positions hard to develop like dt or cb or s....

lt,wr and qbs are too expensive....

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:29 PM

Remember chuck smith in 2000, 2 games for 21 million.

One of many failures over the years. Who remembers the guy we signed several years ago who sat out the year before it even started. He had the decency to give the money back.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:30 PM

You know who else is a build through the draft team? The fugging 49ers. And guess what they have? Draft picks! Lots of them. Young talent! Lots of it. And they are also looking at free agents. God this time of year pisses me off as a Panther fan.



Well that would be the correct way to build through the draft :)

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:32 PM

Every team builds through the draft. Some are just better than others in doing it. We have also built through free agency and through trades as well, but just not with big name folks. What annoys me is the constant accusations that we don't build through free agency when that is not the case at all. We just don't widely spend. Panther fans who have followed the team for the past 17 years know that we have tried that strategy many times almost always with average to poor results.

The best years...all had impact FAs.

1996 - Greene, Walls, Davis

2003 - Jake, Davis, Prohel

2005 - Wahle, Lucas

Those are our NFCC years.....big FA investments. Those are also the only years we have won a playoff game. We also weren't deemed a player or two away from being damn good teams.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:35 PM

The best years...all had impact FAs.

1996 - Greene, Walls, Davis

2003 - Jake, Davis, Prohel

2005 - Wahle, Lucas

Those are our NFCC years.....big FA investments

All those guys were on the back 9 of their careers as well, with the exception of Jake. Buckner used to say on his radio show, they key to finding good free agents is finding guys that have something to prove.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:37 PM

All those guys were on the back 9 of their careers as well, with the exception of Jake.


So? They were big reasons we became good and made our runs....NFCCG game or better runs. You don't have to of made the postseason the year prior to think legit FAs now make sense.

FA matters....real players to make you better. We have lost sight of that in recent years. Struck out once or twice after 2005 and hung it up

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:38 PM

The best years...all had impact FAs.

1996 - Greene, Walls, Davis

2003 - Jake, Davis, Prohel

2005 - Wahle, Lucas

Those are our NFCC years.....big FA investments. Those are also the only years we have won a playoff game

If we could have done that every year we might have a lombardi by now. For all those guys we have had 5 times that many who were busts or not worth the money.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:41 PM

If we could have done that every year we might have a lombardi by now. For all those guys we have had 5 times that many who were busts or not worth the money.


But it worked....I guess we could settle for the current model and avoid them....and try to continue our impressive tradition of losing and not winning playoff games. We have settled into some funk where we don't bring in real bodies from outside....hopefully Gettelmen changes that by year 2 of his era.

Can't do it every year and I don't expect Gettlemen to do it this year.....but soon. Rivera needs to show if he stays or goes and then Gettlemen should swing for the fence IMO.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:42 PM

So? They were big reasons we became good and made our runs....NFCCG game or better runs. You don't have to of made the postseason the year prior to think legit FAs now make sense.

FA matters....real players to make you better. We have lost sight of that in recent years. Struck out once or twice after 2005 and hung it up


My point was you go after guys like that. Guys that might have a couple years left and want to prove they are still players. You don't just build through the draft you supplement with those types of guys.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:43 PM

My point was you go after guys like that. Guys that might have a couple years left and want to prove they are still players.


Gotcha....I agree.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:44 PM

I suppose the sarcasm of my OP was not that obvious.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:46 PM

I suppose the sarcasm of my OP was not that obvious.


A much more likely explanation is that people here are just really stupid.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:51 PM

But it worked....I guess we could settle for the current model and avoid them....and try to continue our impressive tradition of losing and not winning playoff games. We have settled into some funk where we don't bring in real bodies from outside....hopefully Gettelmen changes that by year 2 of his era.

Can't do it every year and I don't expect Gettlemen to do it this year.....but soon. Rivera needs to show if he stays or goes and then Gettlemen should swing for the fence IMO.

I am all for free agents I just think you are better getting guys like Dwan Edwards who aren't big names who you can develop. Most big name guys are not worth the money which is why they are being released.
How can you say on one hand we need to be like Pittsburgh and release guys in their prime and then say we should pick up other team's guys in their prime and pay them a wad. Seems hypocritical.


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