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Why can't we ever just make a splash?

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Can you list the top tier FA busts we've had? Honestly in the last decade, we have not signed a top tier guys. Second tier guys like Lucas/Wahle/Kemo all produced for at least a couple years and we didn't take huge hits to keep them. I can't recall us ever getting a high level guy who simply didn't play or tied up cap space. The truth is we've always played it conservative and had a "build through the draft" philosophy that has kept us a average team year after year.

"build through the draft" is something every single team does.

Hurney just suckered an entire portion of the fanbase into thinking saying that means that's all you should do and did it suggestively implying not filling holes, even ridiculously vacuous, abyssal holes in talent at certain positions through free agency is a-okay because we never have any real money to spend here but let's not say that

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The Ravens had to dump someone because they just signed Flacco to a megadeal. He was getting cut so they hedged their bets.

Flacco's contract is cap friendly this year counting something like 6 million this year. They could have kept Boldin but knew he was over the hill and getting rid of him now is the only way to get anything for him.

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Can you list the top tier FA busts we've had? Honestly in the last decade, we have not signed a top tier guys. Second tier guys like Lucas/Wahle/Kemo all produced for at least a couple years and we didn't take huge hits to keep them. I can't recall us ever getting a high level guy who simply didn't play or tied up cap space. The truth is we've always played it conservative and had a "build through the draft" philosophy that has kept us a average team year after year.

Lucas and Wahle were paid top dollar. They were the marquee FAs in their class. We signed Wahle to such a big contract that everyone assumed he must be moving to Tackle because of the money involved.

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Lucas and Wahle were paid top dollar. They were the marquee FAs in their class. We signed Wahle to such a big contract that everyone assumed he must be moving to Tackle because of the money involved.

Same with hartwig, Sean Gilbert. These other guys weren't top dollar but; DJ Hackett, Landon Johnson. They just seemed to disappoint

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Lucas and Wahle were paid top dollar. They were the marquee FAs in their class. We signed Wahle to such a big contract that everyone assumed he must be moving to Tackle because of the money involved.

http://car.scout.com/2/356867.html

Wrong, look back. Lucas and Wahle both had a average of about 5 million a year, and the salary cap was only slightly lower then it is now.

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Hurney's plan of drafting through the Draft.

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I believe if we add a good receiver... not necessarily at big name, but a solid receiver we will be as potent as SF or Seattle. We have the horses at RB, we have a mobile dangerous QB, we have a pro bowl caliber TE and Arguable the greatest 5-9 WR ever to play the game, we have when healthy a solid OL. I would be happy with a good WR in Free Agency and address an offensive linemen and the rest on defensive players in the draft.

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When we go to the NFCCG one year, then go to the Superbowl the next year, then we will go pick up someone who we think is the final piece. Until then we have way too many issues to worry about picking a 32 year old receiver on his last leg to somehow get us over the hump. We have a better model in Smith already.

If he was so great then why did the Ravens dump him for a 6th rounder? You would think that if he was so important to the superbowl champs they would have kept him. I wonder what they know that you don't?

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Boldin was a great move by the Niners. They are on the doorstep of winning the SB abd a higer priced vet WR was what they needed.

We are NOT that close and have to build this team right now. Using 6 million of cap for an aging vet is not the right longterm move for this organization.

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Just once, trade some future picks to trade back up into the first round and land a couple of studs after you draft a guy for the trenches or a linebacker. Give the QB some more weapons other than Smith. Give Smith some more weapons other than just Smith.

You know how I know that you haven't been a Panther fan for very long?

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Splash, well if your going swimming you will need these.

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http://car.scout.com/2/356867.html

Wrong, look back. Lucas and Wahle both had a average of about 5 million a year, and the salary cap was only slightly lower then it is now.

So you're arguing that those contracts weren't top 5 positional contracts for the time? You would be fuging mistaken. They were top rated positional FA's and they were payed like it.

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We have made splashes before (in the past). It makes more sense to make a big move when you are close than when you are coming off a 7-9 season.

Give Gettleman a chance to clean up the books.

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