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Proudiddy

Full Disclosure: I CAN'T Get a Job

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Lots of people going through very similar things right now... I've walked that road, no less than 3 times in the last 6 years... Same story as everyone else... I was sending out somewhere in the range of 100 resumes weekly from various sites (I'm in IT and agree totally with Inimicus)... I'd get a call back once in a while, but always seemed to be the 'other' candidate... I can also say I share many of the frustrations Kurb mentioned... I had to swallow my pride, and go back to work making pizzas... Eventually I was able to land a contract IT job doing some installs for a hospital... I was told that there was no chance it would go permanent, and not to get my hopes up... BUT, I also knew that if I came in, worked harder than anyone, and showed what kind of employee I am, that if and when they had a position open up, I would at least be in the conversation... 2 weeks before my contract ended, someone quit, and I was hired to replace him...

Don't close any doors, and search under any stone... Unfortunately there are no secrets to finding a job right now... You have to be more lucky than good, but it WILL turn out in your favor... You just have to push forward... Stock shelves... Flip burgers... Clean offices... Whatever it takes to get you through... But never stop looking until you're past this patch... And you will get past it... Just don't stop...

Apply to anything you'd even remotely qualify for, or be interested in, because at the end of the day a recruiter is going to see your resume and submit you for the job he/she thinks you'd fit in and not always the one you app'd for... So, even if you don't qualify totally, send the resume in... Drop them en masse, and see what sticks against the wall... You may fail 2000 times, but it only takes one for you to get out of this...

I wish there were better wisdom I could empart, or a magic wand to fix all this... Just remember you're not alone in this, and that the absolute worst that can happen ain't all that bad... You will get through...

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Want to know who will hire you PDiddy?

The guy who has worked his way to be in position to hire YOU for a that dream job, that has walked a similar road. That person is out there a lot more than you realize. He won't hire you however if you have some chip on your shoulder and aren't trying to do everything possible to keep the shelves stocked at home.

Not trying to be mean, just real talk dude.

~Edit

I guess I contradicted my self, but yeah Im right and stuff.

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I'm gonna be real with ya and I know (because I have known you long enough on this forum to know ya a little) that what I'm going to say is going to make you mad, then make you think. So sit down and listen.

No one fuging cares what you have been through, how hard you have worked, what you have done to get where you are, or any of that. They just don't. It's life and that's that.

Now, take a deep breath and keep reading.

Your "Real Life" experience gives you power, perhaps even more than your degree. Keep trying to better yourself, but understand that even now, after all you have done, the person who will have the most respect for what you have done is you.

I was set, making decent yet really dependable money life was good. Then I got railroaded by the good old State of NC. I along with several of my peer's were abandon by those who should have fought for us and just like that my "perfect" little career was gone. I had 3 months severance and started applying to jobs I "Should" get. Things I "deserved" because of my experience, age, degree w/e. None of them called back.

So I ended up on un-employment. I didn't take that well. Especially considering my first kid was on the way. So I ended up taking a job operating the Wrightsville Beach Draw Bridge. Swinging shifts, pay was exactly 100$ more a month than what unemployment paid. Roughly 28k a year, a exceptional paycut from my previous work.

At first glace you would think this was a difficult job. It was not. My new "peers" consisted of a retired factory worker who had been writing a novel for a decade, a slightly mentally handicapped man who I think ran over someone on the way to work one day, and a Russian Woman who could barely speak English. There I was, young, smart, strikingly good looking, college educated, and working a job that required me to sound a horn, and flip some switches. I worked that job for the better part of a year. I thought about killing myself, I was actually worth more in life insurance than I was working there and my family (wife/kid) would be set for a good long time. But I kept applying to jobs, but now I had a "currently working at". had some great conversations with interviewers about the bridge, usually they were impressed by the fact I was working so I wouldn't be drawing on the "system" and eventually I got a better position than the one I was first laid off from.

You have taken lumps in your life, I get that. Here is the thing. In some fashion most everyone has. Granted people that come from our "class" (I grew up on a farm, i get it) usually have more lumps than most, but we are better for it.

I know you have a kid or 2. Think about the example you can set to them. Dad worked at the Grocery store to make sure we had even nicer stuff, while he found his way to the exceptionally cool job he has now. Don't think for a second I wont remind my son where I was working the day he was born.

You have enough reasons to not be mad, swallow some pride and climb ladders.

Diamonds require lots of pressure and time.

I think what chknwing mentioned would be excellent for you right now. Good money, Rewarding work, Plus you get a day off a week to do extra classes, certs, or job interviews.

JMO, Wish you the best brother.

**Edit**

And just to show you I practice what I preach, while I have a pie job right now getting bills paid and living well, I'm currently working with some kind friends to learn a completely different skill set where I can hopefully push my career even higher and provide an even greater standard of worklife and living for my family.

XOXO

Kurb

Nah Kurb, that didn't anger me at all man. I can't, nor do I feel like writing here, the depths I experienced throughout my journey, but along the way, that was the one thing that hit me harder than anything - NO ONE CARES. To which I adopted the philosophy, "NO EXCUSES." I got to where I just preferred not to even small talk unless absolutely necessary because I didn't want to venture off into semi-psycho babble about where I came from and what I have to overcome. And of course, there is ALWAYS someone worse off than you, so I never wanted to give the impression that I was overdramatic or self-victimizing.

But, I guess the time to myself now has led me to overanalyze things even more so than I usually do. It's tough man.

But, I'm with you. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to read what I wrote and respond in detail with your story man. That is awesome. I just told mr beauxjangles in a PM that I'm just considering giving a Will Smith from The Pursuit of Happyness speech in my interviews, lol.

But seriously, I'm keeping my nose to the grindstone and praying and hoping for the best. I think it's just more of an internal struggle now, because while I know others don't care about what you've done to get where you are, the time to myself has caused me to put even more weight into my story. I have to get past that myself, and in this discussion, it's kind of become clear that it is holding me back to some degree.

Your story reminds me of so many of the places I was at before I started school so it really resonates with me man. I'd never consider suicide because I just couldn't do that to my wife and children, but I've certainly been down lately - I just want to sleep, cover the windows, turn all of the lights off, and lay in the bed. In being real with myself, I keep going to that "what have you done with your life to get to this point" place because I'm not getting the jobs... But, then I remember all the tough times before my wife and kids, back when I felt like the worst someone could do was kill me, and they might have been doing me a favor - that mindset. And it kind of shakes me back to reality in knowing, I have plenty to be thankful for, I just have to keep grinding and I guess eat some humble pie.

Sorry for the Dr. Phil moments sprinkled throughout this post, as I know the Huddle has grown away from personal, real, intimate discussions... But, yeah... Thanks man. I must give you a brohug one day, that almost brought tears to my eyes buddy.

EDIT: Oh, and I wanted to point out for clarification as well. My wife makes good enough for us to live well and comfortably (she had her masters in speech pathology) and she is always getting more options made available to her, but things are starting to feel a little tight and I just feel like less of a man not working. She's fine with it, because it does save us money for me to stay at home with our two younger children, but we could use more money and I just want to contribute and get back out there, at the very least, from a social aspect.

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This is like an "old huddle" thread.

*its dusty in here*

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Nah Kurb, that didn't anger me at all man. I can't, nor do I feel like writing here, the depths I experienced throughout my journey, but along the way, that was the one thing that hit me harder than anything - NO ONE CARES.

It's not so much that no one cares... It's more that they've heard the same story from their sister, their cousin, their best friend, their uncle's girlfriend... maybe they had a 'black monday' at work and lost a few hundred employees to cut backs... They care, but they've heard the same story so many times, with absolutely nothing they can do about it... And even if you're telling someone who is in a position to be able to hire you, keep in mind they're hearing the same story from every person applying... They do care, but they're powerless to help, and have become desensitized to the hard times many are facing...

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Mr. Beauadfaadosifxjangles said a lot of what I would've said if I could write that much at once. My career track has been unorthodox as well, but keeping at it has really let it take off over the last 2 years. Be stubborn, in a good way.

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The only degree worth a damn that you listed is an engineering one. IT degrees are a dime a dozen, and MBAs and Law degrees are saturated to the point of being worthless.

Do you just want a job? Or is there something that you actually want to do some day, that you hope you can work toward?

TBH man, Mr beux, pretty much hit the nail on the head. I don't know what I want. I'm kind of a free-spirited guy. I've talked about writing pieces for magazines (don't judge me on my huddle contributions LOL) or scripts. I love the arts. I'd like to get to a place where I could put all my time towards that and be successful. I've had some very successful people in film/entertainment tell me I have a lot of potential and to pursue it, but I think I'm just kind of stuck because I lack the initiative and there isn't a "how-to" guide for those fields per se.

So, I consider those like hobbies or outside interests, and I feel like if I can get a solid job to work for the time being, it will put me in a place where I can pursue those more fully and wholeheartedly. So, I guess I'm looking for a professional job that isn't as demanding as a working class one, that would provide me with the time and money to pursue those other interests as well as put my family in an even more comfortable position.

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The only degree worth a damn that you listed is an engineering one. IT degrees are a dime a dozen, and MBAs and Law degrees are saturated to the point of being worthless.

Do you just want a job? Or is there something that you actually want to do some day, that you hope you can work toward?

I have a degree in Engineering and I make more money driving a beer truck. Perhaps I should have gone with Architectural Engineering instead of Electronic... :)

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Jesus, everyone in this thread is from Huddle circa 2004.

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Going to open a secret ~Old School~ subforum...

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