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you can always come to Alberta and get a job in the patch and by the end of the week be earning 6 figures that won't start with a 1 depending on where you want to live!!!!

Im not even sure what you said but im all in!!

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oil patch up here in Alberta is really starting to rev up again thanks to some big new projects and lots of expansion at other facilities. If you want to live in camp and don't mind isolation, mosquitos and black flies and long, cold winters...there's huge money to be made. If you are a welder, pipefitter, and of the big trades...not unreasonable right now to make $200G per year.

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Hawk, Tyler keeps saying he wants to be a welder and move to Canada. Now I know why.

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A lot of replies so I don't know if this has been pitched yet but have you looked at local, state or federal jobs?

Good luck to you in your future endeavors.

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Hawk, Tyler keeps saying he wants to be a welder and move to Canada. Now I know why.

bunny...I'm not exaggerating when I say that anyone that's healthy enough and willing enough can make huge bucks if they want. I'm not sure about the whole border thing or green card etc...but the work is most definitely there.

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Learn statistics

Learn sales

Learn interpersonal communication

http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20130314031230-8451-my-secrets-how-i-learned-that-selling-is-a-key-to-success

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Thanks to PD for making a worthwhile commiseration of people possible for the first time in a long time. What you've done took serious guts, and the heart of this huddle responded well enough to get this bastard (me) to appreciate and love what makes this place worth it.

I propose a PD campaign to get this guy where he wants to be faster. If you don't have a LinkedIn account, get one and post it to people you know and trust. They can tangibly put their stamp on their experiences with you to attest to your character. The rest of us can keep an eye out and ear down for opportunities that may be of interest to you and then get them to you by pm'ing you or posting it directly here for your consideration.

If you aren't averse to that, post what you are genuinely seeking and we can make this huddle work for you mon ami

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PD, it seems that you have gotten your head on straight, since the start of this thread, but I wanted to add a couple things to what others have said that really scare me about your ability to shoot up the ladder.

You said that you hated networking/ass kissing. Get over it, and get good at both of them, and I mean really good. That stuff didn't come naturally to me, and I came from a poor family and now work in a world full of big wigs. I am able to hang because I networked, made friends, and stuck my neck out when I had to.

I'm serious here, what is on that resume and on that degree, mean squat once you are in front of people, and they are asking you questions. Literally college means nothing unless you are in a very specific industry once you are past the HR people.

Secondly, just to share my little story with you, I too got out of school and didn't know what I was going to do, I started bartending, and one of my regulars asked me if I wanted a "real job". I met with him the next day and he offered me $9.00 per hour plus some bonuses if I did well. Pretty much nothing, but I decided to swallow my ego/pride and give it a shot.

Felt like I was stuck there forever, and all I did was make cold calls for him to get him business. It sucked, I hated it, but I had found a profession that I thought I could like and do for a long time. I worked harder than anyone else, didn't take time off, didn't take a vacation, and didn't ever call in.

After 18 months of this terrible job, I got promoted to my bosses equal. My income jumped from 30K to 80K overnight. I was 23 years old. Now 8 years later I am still in the industry, and could walk from this job into another with just a phone call and a handshake. I do well enough to have a very good life in a town that many with my sames credentials barely make 40K.

All I am trying to say, is don't miss out on a opportunity just because you have a degree, or the fact that you think it's below you.

And for heaven sake, please start trying to hang out with folks that are better off than you are. I love my old friends, and see them often, but if you are only hanging with people who talk about their kids or the Panthers....you are in trouble. Get out of your comfort zone.

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Thanks to PD for making a worthwhile commiseration of people possible for the first time in a long time. What you've done took serious guts, and the heart of this huddle responded well enough to get this bastard (me) to appreciate and love what makes this place worth it.

I propose a PD campaign to get this guy where he wants to be faster. If you don't have a LinkedIn account, get one and post it to people you know and trust. They can tangibly put their stamp on their experiences with you to attest to your character. The rest of us can keep an eye out and ear down for opportunities that may be of interest to you and then get them to you by pm'ing you or posting it directly here for your consideration.

If you aren't averse to that, post what you are genuinely seeking and we can make this huddle work for you mon ami

PD, it seems that you have gotten your head on straight, since the start of this thread, but I wanted to add a couple things to what others have said that really scare me about your ability to shoot up the ladder.

You said that you hated networking/ass kissing. Get over it, and get good at both of them, and I mean really good. That stuff didn't come naturally to me, and I came from a poor family and now work in a world full of big wigs. I am able to hang because I networked, made friends, and stuck my neck out when I had to.

I'm serious here, what is on that resume and on that degree, mean squat once you are in front of people, and they are asking you questions. Literally college means nothing unless you are in a very specific industry once you are past the HR people.

Secondly, just to share my little story with you, I too got out of school and didn't know what I was going to do, I started bartending, and one of my regulars asked me if I wanted a "real job". I met with him the next day and he offered me $9.00 per hour plus some bonuses if I did well. Pretty much nothing, but I decided to swallow my ego/pride and give it a shot.

Felt like I was stuck there forever, and all I did was make cold calls for him to get him business. It sucked, I hated it, but I had found a profession that I thought I could like and do for a long time. I worked harder than anyone else, didn't take time off, didn't take a vacation, and didn't ever call in.

After 18 months of this terrible job, I got promoted to my bosses equal. My income jumped from 30K to 80K overnight. I was 23 years old. Now 8 years later I am still in the industry, and could walk from this job into another with just a phone call and a handshake. I do well enough to have a very good life in a town that many with my sames credentials barely make 40K.

All I am trying to say, is don't miss out on a opportunity just because you have a degree, or the fact that you think it's below you.

And for heaven sake, please start trying to hang out with folks that are better off than you are. I love my old friends, and see them often, but if you are only hanging with people who talk about their kids or the Panthers....you are in trouble. Get out of your comfort zone.

Thanks guys, it truly does mean a lot to me.

@Twylyght, I don't currently have a LinkedIn, but I'll get on it. I've just been skeptical of it, but the more apps I've filled out and resumes I've submitted, the more I'm seeing that it is VERY relevant to have. So, I'll be creating an account on there... As far as any help outside of the awesome advice the huddle has already offered me in this thread, I'd greatly appreciate anything anyone has to offer in forms of leads, someone you know, or whatever it may be.

@thefuzz, thanks man. You are right as well man. I often use my family as an excuse as to why I wouldn't go to many social events while I was in college. I went to some, mainly the ones I had to or was extremely interested in, I just despised the "fake" ones. But, I realize my mistake in staying in my comfort zone the further away I've gotten from college. I have some great contacts/references for my creative interests/pursuits, but I am sorely lack in the successful businessman-friend department.

And another thing you hit on that kind of ties into that... From where I came from, there are so many people that want to see me do badly. My own family takes snipes at me for going to college and breaking the mold. Some complain about having to "pay" for my schooling as red-blooded American taxpayers, some ask those questions like "so, you just decide you're not going to law school now?" You know, the kind of question that is more of a celebratory statement than an actual inquiry.

I digress, as always, but yeah man... I will start networking because I know it's necessary. And it doesn't always have to be formal, like pstall said, it could be through sports, a pickup game, or what have you. I just always liked to keep my personal time/interests separate from my business. But, it is necessary nowadays to combine them. As a matter of fact, I'm looking at joining the local Toastmaster group since this thread. I found classes they're giving through the local chamber of commerce class and I think it can really help me across the board.

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PD, I promise you that you will not succeed in this World any longer by having a 9-5, and leaving the work at work....that is unless you want to make 45K for the rest of your life.

You can do it man, just don't let friends, family, ego, or pride get in the way.

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Proudiddy, hang in there man. I can't give you advice because I'm in the same boat as you...lol. You and I sound pretty similar with respect to how you describe yourself. I can fit in with most people, but I absolutely loathe the idea of rubbing elbows to get ahead. I grew up in a family that was pretty much how you described. Blue collar workers. In fact I worked in a factory for 14 years before it closed down. I made decent money, not 6 figures, but I was very comfortable.

In any case, when the plant shut down the company paid for my college classes. I couldn't really decide what to do, so I first got an Associates in Network Systems Administration. Didn't really seem like something I really wanted to do, but I couldn't find a job in any case. Then I switched to get a Computer Engineering degree (Associate's), with a plan to transfer and pursue an Electronics Engineering degree. I'm almost finished with that (have one more class).

Now I did get a job that would work around my college schedule as an Electronics Technician at a small company in town here, but my thyroid gland went apeshit and I couldn't sleep (still experiencing this) and couldn't eat for about a week. I eventually had to quit that job because I didn't feel like I had the energy, and my concentration and memory were significantly impaired from the lack of sleep. Damn getting old. It seems like once you hit 40 everything breaks down.

In any case, you sound like a good dude, and I'm sure you'll find something soon.

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just to add some more layers on networking. i play hoops first for fun, second for friendships. while keeping it in that order, oppurtunities will arise naturally and you won't have to kiss butt nor will you have to be fake and have an alterior motive.

many times once you get to know a crew of guys, you can begin to hear where they work, what they do, what they are looking for etc and in time, you too will be able to pull a guy up from where you stand once you build up a good network.

i had close to 1k friends on facebook before i exiled myself. that alone has made me focus on core relationships and not get bogged down.

find something that you can use as an anchor in terms of steady pay/benefits while you look ahead. i always say the best lessons in life are unintentional. we can overthink our path and try to line up everything to perfection and it doesn't always work that way.

find a place(s) to ball. in time that will snowball to bigger and better things and you will stay in shape and burn off some pent up agression at the same time.

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