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#85 Proudiddy

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:33 PM

Really? Already forgot your page one whimper?

I was referring to the original quote you used of mine. I didn't refer to Hurney in that one.

As for Hurney, he absolutely has something to do with who the Bucs sign. You don't think Goldson would add a much needed toughness in our secondary and step in immediately and be the best safety of that style that we've had since Minter? Godfrey has improved, but IMO, his job shouldn't be guaranteed because he hasn't proven enough to this point over the life of his career. I was proud of what he did last year, but safety has been the worst position on our defense for years now and it's been ignored. That was Hurney. Put Godfrey with Goldson and that's a much different defense than Godfrey and whatever scrub we have available week-to-week.

Now, we're strapped for cash and get to watch the Bucs add guys that we have an absolute immediate need for and we're supposed to be cool with that because we re-sign glue guys like Hartsock and Florence? That's why Hurney has something to do with who our division rivals sign and who we do and don't.

And people can keep railing about how "they still finished last in the division," well, guess how many times we beat them last year? Exactly. They might've finished last in the division, but they also had more meaningful wins than we did and won early. All they're doing is improving, meanwhile, we've released tenured and successful starters and key role players and have not replaced them. But, we're going to be better as-is?

I know FA isn't over, but I'm just saying, they are progressing and as of now, we're standing pat. All of this is a result of Hurney's flippant attitude with our cap numbers and poor personnel decisions.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:38 PM

PFF actually posted an article last year citing that Goldson was the most overrated 'coverage' safety in the NFL. The article was very well done but I was skeptical (as majority of fans were too -- blinded by the success of the Niners' front seven). Dashon allowed a 69% completion rate whenever the pass rush failed to pressure the QB. And that supposedly was his career year.

When reviewing the tape for this post season, it's crystal clear why the 49ers chose not to offer him a big contract. Goldson was burned for two touchdowns [badly] and missed two crucial tackles in the Superbowl.

Dashon isn't a mediocre safety but he got overpaid for a service that Barron already provides. To put it simply, The Bucs are gonna have a hard-hitting secondary but is that what they needed after their secondary was torched by contenders all season long? Nope. It's why I'm not worried about Cam throwing it in Goldson's direction. LaFell and Olsen will obliterate this guy if Newton gets more time in the pocket.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:45 PM

No doubt he was overpaid, but we could use a hardnosed safety.

I'm not complaining, just saying we are where we are because of what we did in years prior. We could always bring in a guy like Rhodes or Pollard to fill the same type of role for significantly less money. Did they overpay? Yes. But, we need to match what they and our other rivals do defensively with the same type of smashmouth philosophy IMO, in order to get to the top of our division.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:55 PM

No doubt he was overpaid, but we could use a hardnosed safety.

I'm not complaining, just saying we are where we are because of what we did in years prior. We could always bring in a guy like Rhodes or Pollard to fill the same type of role for significantly less money. Did they overpay? Yes. But, we need to match what they and our other rivals do defensively with the same type of smashmouth philosophy IMO, in order to get to the top of our division.


There's always the draft. Cyprien, Wilcox, and Wolff are all hard-nosed safeties with coverage skills.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:59 PM

Wow, scary secondary behind a pretty good front 7, Schiano may be on to something in Tampa.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:13 PM

Wow, scary secondary behind a pretty good front 7, Schiano may be on to something in Tampa.

their front 7 is rather shaky, esp. the DL, and their secondary is weak in coverage.

it's a team built to stop the run...not the pass.

he would have been on to something 10 years ago.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:20 PM

For all the talk about their front 7 though, they certainly didn't have trouble getting pressure on us the last 2 years.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:47 PM

I was expecting something in the 35-40 million range. They overpaid but not by a crazy amount. Solid move for them though they probably still need help on their DLine.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:55 PM

For all the talk about their front 7 though, they certainly didn't have trouble getting pressure on us the last 2 years.


They're a divisional rival. We swept the Saints and beat the Falcons with our low-tier secondary.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:41 PM

Sorry to say, but with our current roster we're not beating the bucs next year. Hopefully we can manhandle the Saints since they're doing nothing either in free agency. For now, I see third place in the division.