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#16 nagai

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:26 PM

I hope he's not there at 14. Let someone else fall into the trap.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:28 PM

If we consider a WR in the first few rounds, I'd hope its Austin, Hopkins, T-Williams, Hunter, Patton, Bailey or Wheaton

If I can narrow down this rather top heavy but non-elite class, those would be my choices (not necessarily in the 1st0

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:29 PM

he's one of several I'm really hoping gettleman and rivera think are worth the pick. definitely want a playmaker WR in one of the first couple rounds.

I think our only big risk is the Jets in front of us, I believe they are going to go WR just like us, only way I don't see us going WR is if someone like Star drops in our lap that we just cant pass up on.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:02 PM

How? Tell me who our DTs are at the moment.


So drafting a bust DT is going to help me remember the names of our current DT's.

My point is that drafting DT's in the first is far more risky than WR, CB, or OL. They have a higher bust rate in the top of the draft.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:43 PM

I think our only big risk is the Jets in front of us, I believe they are going to go WR just like us, only way I don't see us going WR is if someone like Star drops in our lap that we just cant pass up on.


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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:56 PM

So drafting a bust DT is going to help me remember the names of our current DT's.

My point is that drafting DT's in the first is far more risky than WR, CB, or OL. They have a higher bust rate in the top of the draft.



I dont care about the bust rate. If you groom someone the right way, you'll get what you develop.
Did Detroit asked themselves what was the bust rate for DTs when they took Suh no.2 overall? No they didnt. Theres no Suh in this Draft, but you try to built your team from the front up. We have literally no one at that position to compete this upcoming season. Unless you wanna go into the season with Fua and Kearse as your starting DTs. God, please help Kuechly!

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:02 PM

I dont care about the bust rate. If you groom someone the right way, you'll get what you develop.
Did Detroit asked themselves what was the bust rate for DTs when they took Suh no.2 overall? No they didnt. Theres no Suh in this Draft, but you try to built your team from the front up. We have literally no one at that position to compete this upcoming season. Unless you wanna go into the season with Fua and Kearse as your starting DTs. God, please help Kuechly!


Please believe I want some guys up front to let our great line backing corps be great. I just don't like the idea of tying up a high draft pick that's gonna take 3 years to materialize on the field. This is where we are going to need free agency to be our friend. You can't count on the draft for defensive line talent unless a Julius Peppers or, as you mentioned, a Suh is sitting there when we pick.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:07 PM

Please believe I want some guys up front to let our great line backing corps be great. I just don't like the idea of tying up a high draft pick that's gonna take 3 years to materialize on the field. This is where we are going to need free agency to be our friend. You can't count on the draft for defensive line talent unless a Julius Peppers or, as you mentioned, a Suh is sitting there when we pick.


We need "two" starting DTs. Fua and Kearse are rotational guys. We need to try and retain Dwan, if we cant we better add a Veteran there. And we need to draft one to groom for the future. We have avoided that position too damn long, and we cant pass up another one.

But if we could, Id love, "Id love" to retain Dwan and add a guy like Roy Miller. This way we can have two veteran presence on the line and able to address a "WR or CB" at no.14.

EIther way, but at the end I think you and I can both agree that we need "two" DTs.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:11 PM

He's got Hillis written all over him. Give me Austin, Hopkins, Rogers or Hunter over him. The kid is all hype at the moment.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:14 PM

We need "two" starting DTs. Fua and Kearse are rotational guys. We need to try and retain Dwan, if we cant we better add a Veteran there. And we need to draft one to groom for the future. We have avoided that position too damn long, and we cant pass up another one.

But if we could, Id love, "Id love" to retain Dwan and add a guy like Roy Miller. This way we can have two veteran presence on the line and able to address a "WR or CB" at no.14.

EIther way, but at the end I think you and I can both agree that we need "two" DTs.


Agreed

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:15 PM

Why do people want him?


We discussed CP ad naseum last week. Everybody has an opinion, but here is one I have taken a liking too. Of course, a lot will depend upon his workouts.

Here are some excerpts from the aforementioned piece by rotoworld's Senior Editor, Evan Silva

I had seen a few of Patterson's highlights and a cut-up video before this Evaluation, but nothing substantial. I entered this one with no preconceived opinions and a wide-open mind. In my first real exposure to Patterson, I watched six Tennessee games, all of Patterson's touches twice, and charted each with detailed notes.

One fact crystallized after about two games: Scoring touchdowns and playing explosive football come natural toCordarrelle Patterson. He is a natural playmaker. Listed at 6-foot-3, 205, Patterson's body type is similar to Dez Bryant and Julio Jones', and his game is especially similar to Julio's. Patterson's movements seemed effortless even as he outraced defensive backs and made oncoming defenders shiver. Julio is a bit like that. Randy Moss was like that, too.



I checked the box score after watching the Mississippi State game, just for kicks. Patterson had two catches for 25 yards. He was still a Human Highlight Reel, ripping off devastating cuts to make three Bulldogs special teamers look silly on a 98-yard kickoff return touchdown. Patterson turned a 10-yard loss into a long gain on a reverse, busting a tackle deep in the backfield, making another defender miss, and reversing field again en route to a 34-yard pickup. His first reception came in heralded cornerback Johnthan Banks' coverage, as Patterson's precise curl-out route left Banks flat footed for 14 yards along the left sideline. Patterson got his second catch versus another highly touted draft prospect in Darius Slay, out-muscling Banks' bookend for an 11-yard touchdown on a fade. Patterson just barely missed an additional kick return score, shaking two Bulldogs before a lucky shoestring tackle stopped Patterson at the 39-yard line with only green grass in front of him. Despite catching just two balls against Mississippi State, Patterson finished with 195 all-purpose yards and two touchdowns. (When you say 'play', I say 'maker'.)



Now for the nitpicks. Patterson has a tendency to let passes get too far into his body. He doesn't always catch it with his hands. I charted 39 of Patterson's targets and charged him with two drops. Each drop occurred on a throw over his right shoulder. Patterson put himself in great position to secure both, so tracking deep balls doesn't appear to be an issue. Catching them may be something he needs to improve.


Cordarrelle Pattersonis a freak. There were times he looked genuinely un-tackle-able on tape. I charted him with 29 open-field opportunities across six games. He made the first defender miss on 20 of them. Many receivers are explosive vertically and run fast in a straight line. Patterson is explosive both vertically and laterally, and physical as all get out. I loved how he got skinny through tight spaces, regularly sending would-be tacklers grasping at air as they left their feet. Patterson's run-after-catch ability might be the best I have ever seen from a college wide receiver.


I think I read somewhere that Patterson is a poor route runner. Could've fooled me. He ran a full route tree in Tennessee's pro-style offense, executing the curl, hitch, skinny post, slant, back-shoulder fade, and deep-in as an X receiver, and the out-and-up and shallow cross from the slot. Just once did I see Patterson seem to blow a route; versus Vanderbilt. I couldn't tell if the miscommunication was on him or Tyler Bray. Patterson shot in and out of breaks. He used a crossover to evade press coverage off the line of scrimmage. His body control was fantastic both along the sideline and in the open field.


Patterson's game tape is nothing short of sensational, and as explained above he dominated games in the SEC even while taking a receiving backseat to Hunter. Watch Patterson work the slant and fade versus Florida. He lit up Missouri and Mississippi State with game-breaking all-purpose plays. Patterson broke off a 45-yard kickoff return against Alabama. On a reverse, Patterson made swiss cheese of the middle of Georgia's defense on a 46-yard end-zone trip.

Based on what I read about Patterson before watching the tape, I expected a raw, unpolished, mistake-prone receiver. A talented project. I did see big-time talent, but I didn't see many mistakes at all.

If Cordarrelle Patterson is a boom-or-bust pick in April's draft, write me down as predicting a smashing boom.



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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:43 PM

I dont care about the bust rate. If you groom someone the right way, you'll get what you develop.
Did Detroit asked themselves what was the bust rate for DTs when they took Suh no.2 overall? No they didnt. Theres no Suh in this Draft, but you try to built your team from the front up. We have literally no one at that position to compete this upcoming season. Unless you wanna go into the season with Fua and Kearse as your starting DTs. God, please help Kuechly!

Man that Suh and Fairley have really taken Detroit to the next level.........

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:53 PM

Why do people want him?



Probably because he's fast. Since he had a good combine showing he's been shooting up draft boards. I still think he's not worth a 14th pick. Gettleman and Rivera said we're not taking projects. Only starters. I don't see Him being a starter his first year.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:02 PM

I honestly think the biggest threat is our old buddy Chud in Cleveland at 6th overall. Jets, Titans, and Bills have other needs and there will be players available who fill them.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:09 PM

I honestly think the biggest threat is our old buddy Chud in Cleveland at 6th overall. Jets, Titans, and Bills have other needs and there will be players available who fill them.

I think Cleveland will they dont have any good WR



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