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#46 Nicks To The Colts

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:11 PM

Bierman isn't a bad player and I'd much rather have the rest of the offseason to pickup a DE through FA or the draft to plug in (hello Freeney), rather than be us and have the rest of the offseason to have to pickup corners, safeties, defensive tackles, wide receivers, offensive linemen, and linebacker depth.


biermann isn't a bad rotational player but he's not a quality starter by any stretch of the imagination.

i'm responding specifically to your original, extremely faulty assertion that the falcons have enough depth at defensive end to just push somebody else out there along with a rookie and that's going to pick up abraham's production as if it doesn't matter at all that he's gone.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:13 PM

oh yeah and unless i argued specifically that i wouldn't want to be the falcons right now then whether or not you'd trade places with them has zero bearing on anything

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:14 PM

biermann isn't a bad rotational player but he's not a quality starter by any stretch of the imagination.

i'm responding specifically to your original, extremely faulty assertion that the falcons have enough depth at defensive end to just push somebody else out there along with a rookie and that's going to pick up abraham's production as if it doesn't matter at all that he's gone.

My point remains, they have much less to worry about than we do, and that is NOT okay. Losing Abraham is huge, but as I said, there are guys like Freeney still floating out there. That is their biggest need. We have a lot of "biggest needs."

And that wasn't the assertion I was making.

I was saying that they are making moves and will continue to make moves to plug in at the spots that they lost production from through those veteran releases. We have yet to do anything of significance and the top-tier guys are going quickly, many for much cheaper than what was expected.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:17 PM

That wasn't the assertion I was making.

I was saying that they are making moves and will continue to make moves to plug in at the spots that they lost production from through those veteran releases. We have yet to do anything of significance and the top-tier guys are going quickly, many for much cheaper than what was expected.


that's not what i got out of this:

My guess is, if Gross was playing for ATL, he already would've been released if they had a options like Campbell behind him and the draft to choose from - just as they did with Abraham, Robinson, and Turner.


my exact point is that they have no quality starters at DE right now and they're going to be hard pressed to replace abraham's production regardless of what they do in the draft or free agency. is it really that hard to swallow? "just like they did with abraham" implies that there's depth there when there's demonstrably not.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:18 PM

also if you think that what i'm saying here somehow makes me an apologist for anything we're doing right now then 1. lol 2. learn how to argue

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:19 PM

That wasn't the assertion I was making.

I was saying that they are making moves and will continue to make moves to plug in at the spots that they lost production from through those veteran releases. We have yet to do anything of significance and the top-tier guys are going quickly, many for much cheaper than what was expected.


I lost a TON of faith in Marty, Fox, and JR after the ass beating to the Cards in the playoffs a few years ago.

Marty, during the offseason, said something along the lines of: "we'll we are returning 20 of 22 starters from a division winner"

Lol. This is not college football. We don't have returning seniors. You HAVE to get better because everyone else will.

Needless to say the franchise has not been the same since that loss.

That was our year man

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

Is Jackson at this point in his career any better than Turner was last year? More of a big name than a big impact. It's about time we get off our asses and make some type of move.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:23 PM

Yeah the Falcons are not doing much if they dont improve their pass rush, really that goes for every team in our divsion. They are all signing skill position players but no trench guys. Saints and Falcons defensive lines make our O Line look Top 5.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:24 PM

YAWN... sorry, what?

Meanwhile, Todd McClure retired... so they need a new center.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:24 PM

for all you jealous panther fans steven jackson is definetly better than turner. are you smoking something? he still has stuff left in the tank. our corners are going to fall for playaction so hard they might tear an acl in the process. can wait to play with them on madden lol

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:26 PM

Paper champions... where have I seen this before?

You could almost say the Falcons were assembling a "DREAM TEAM".

Too bad this isn't the NBA and it doesn't work like that.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:27 PM

Yeah, we'll see just how washed up he is this year....

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:29 PM

that's not what i got out of this:



my exact point is that they have no quality starters at DE right now and they're going to be hard pressed to replace abraham's production regardless of what they do in the draft. is it really that hard to swallow? "just like they did with abraham" implies that there's depth there when there's demonstrably not.

I was stating that with the implication being that they will be replacing Abraham with a FA signing or draft pick and equating that to Gross being released to free up room to sign other players (like they did) and replacing him with OUR depth in OUR situation in a worst case scenario. I didn't make that clear in my original post, but my point is that they didn't release Abraham without a plan. Meanwhile, we still have money tied up in guys that don't produce like they used to and have only added Drayton Florence. Superbowl.

I don't find any solace that they don't have DE depth. They have proven to make the right decisions in Dimitroff's tenure and they will replace Abraham.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:29 PM

Whats the early over/under on how many times Jackson trucks Sione Fua this year

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:30 PM

Yeah, we'll see just how washed up he is this year....


He isn't washed up, but assuming a guy can change teams and pick right up where he left off is a foolish assumption.

We'll just have to see how this plays out.


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