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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:30 AM

Bottom line is that if Austin is all that and a bag of chips, then he should be in line for major consideration. I don't care what size he is, if he is tough. Austin said that he hasn't missed a game in 8 years. Some people come out of their asses with comparisons, but I think that the comparison to D-Jax is on point, and there are subtle suggestions that Austin could be better. This should make every Panthers fan sit up and pay attention.

I said earlier this season that I believe Adams could be on the bubble depending upon who we get in here (though he'll probably survive). The same can be said for Pilares, and Edwards is as good as gone (because he just is not an NFL caliber WR, no matter how much anyone wants him to be).

Electrifying, explosive playmakers who can take it to the house every time they touch the ball don't come along every day, so you can't just use size to reject them out of hand.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:02 AM

Hi i don't post here much but that might increase first I don't like short WR's but if we are ever going to find a replacement for Steve Smith This Tavon Austin might be it

as for our current group of WR's Lafell is a stilll learning solid #2 & Gettis was appearently a 1 yr wonder & Pilares could be a good slot & ST guy & A.Edwards is a Special Teamer at best nothing more & Adams needs to develop more before he see the field as a WR

SO the question is can you see Tavon Austin as a #1 WR i can & i can't see any WR on our roster as a future #1

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:05 AM

is there that much of a difference between this guy and joe adams that tavon would be worth a #14 pick and adams can't see the field on offense?


All I can say is watch his film......nothing there even close to Adams.He only had 572 all purpose yards against Oklahoma and 390 yards with 4 TDs against Clemson.Do you think Adams could do that?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:44 AM

Since when? 5'11 remains average height for a WR.

No, they were signed to future contracts. In all likelihood, both Rosario and Bryant will grace the field as pros in 2013. Kearse and J. Thomas were offered future contracts last year and started this last season.


You say "remains" like it's an established fact. If that's so I'd like to see your sources. Under 6' is commonly accepted to be "undersized" for a WR. I doubt there's any hard data on the average height of NFL WRs, but here's some answers I found from google:

http://www.stack.com...wide-receivers/

Averages from 2011 combine (didn't cherry pick the year, that's just the one that showed up in the search results)

Average Top Performer Height Height: 6'1"
Average Top Performer Height Weight: 200 lbs.


http://www.google.co...0,d.dGI&cad=rja

That one says 6' - 6'3

http://wiki.answers...._wide_receivers

Average height and weight of NFL wide receivers?



Answer:
After doing all the research, from what I can tell the average height and weight of an NFL wide receiver its apprmox. 6'2 and roughly 205lbs.


That one says he actually ran the data, but who knows.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:52 AM

Bottom line is that if Austin is all that and a bag of chips, then he should be in line for major consideration. I don't care what size he is, if he is tough ...
Electrifying, explosive playmakers who can take it to the house every time they touch the ball don't come along every day, so you can't just use size to reject them out of hand.


I agree. If he looks like a can't miss WR prospect, size doesn't matter. All I've got to go off of is youtube videos, and based on what I've seen I don't see a guy that is a can't miss WR prospect. I haven't seen him run all the routes, I haven't seen phenomenal route running on the ones he did run, I haven't seen anything that makes me think he can run the deep ball and outjump defenders like Smitty. The closest thing I can compare him to in the NFL is a smaller Reggie Bush, based on college performance.

Could he have all the things I just listed and I haven't seen it? Sure. But based on what I've seen, if he were our pick at #14 I would initially be disappointed. I'd keep an open mind, just like I did with Kuechley (wasn't big on that pick leading to the draft when everyone was predicting it) and I'd be the first to admit I was wrong if we took Austin way too high and he turned out to be everything some here thinks he can be (like I did with Kuechley).

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:39 AM

Hi i don't post here much but that might increase first I don't like short WR's but if we are ever going to find a replacement for Steve Smith This Tavon Austin might be it

as for our current group of WR's Lafell is a stilll learning solid #2 & Gettis was appearently a 1 yr wonder & Pilares could be a good slot & ST guy & A.Edwards is a Special Teamer at best nothing more & Adams needs to develop more before he see the field as a WR

SO the question is can you see Tavon Austin as a #1 WR i can & i can't see any WR on our roster as a future #1


This has to be the same kepickle from scout.com haha.

But no, he isn't a #1 type receiver, though he could be a #1 offensive threat. I see him being very dangerous early in his career as a slot receiver, kick returner, and scat back. But as he ages he will just be a solid slot receiver. He could prove everyone wrong like smith did and become an unstoppable #1 receiver, so you just have to ask yourself is his floor worth it if his ceiling is that high?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:16 AM

is there that much of a difference between this guy and joe adams that tavon would be worth a #14 pick and adams can't see the field on offense?


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:17 AM

How many WR's New England had over 6'0 tall last year? I'd give a hint... "Zero". Both teams run coryell air attack with dual TE sets.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:21 AM

His speed and change of direction will make him a terror. Dude will get open...



Dude can also play RB and Scatback. Teams will have to game plan for him...

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:18 AM

Biggest question I have is can Ausitn add 20 pounds and keep his speed. I would have like to see him add the weight before the combine but that didnt happen. 174 is to small to play everydown in the NFL without getting injured. While at the time I think he will be a great player. The Panthers would be wise to trade the 14th spot to a team for Austin and pick up a extra 2nd or 3rd round pick.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:21 AM

I'm not surprised. I seen a ton of his games in college and I have NEVER seen a football player with his acceleration, NEVER. You have a guy that can, almost every time, get an extra 3 yards or more on just about ANY catch because of pure acceleration and YAC ability. He's not Megatron big, we've been over this, but if you combine Tavon with Cam's potential breaking out of the pocket at all times, it's going to be a TERROR for the defense. Having someone that can come back in scrambles to bail out Cam with this much YAC ability will be nice. I have also seen him go straight at a defender for that extra yard or two instead of going out of bounds, so IMO he's also pretty tough.

Not to mention the return possibilities. We've been terrible at field position on returns for a while, time to change that up.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:21 AM

Absolutely not. I think Austin could very well be a good player, especially in the right environment, but he doesn't fit what we need. If we go WR early (and I think we should, but in the 2nd), it shouldn't be ANOTHER undersized speedy guy. Most teams have 1 or 2 undersized speedy guys at most to add some variety to their passing game. Our WR corps is dominated by undersized speedy guys.


True. However, we know as good as anyone little doesn't mean everything, if he's good. And he is.

and we also know that it won't be "two little guys" very long.

Only reciever I'd take over Austin is Patterson (maybe. Would probably still pick Austin, but I do agree with your point), and honestly I can't see that happening

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:26 AM

Other than Adams and Steve (who isn't considered undersized because of his ability to fight for the ball), who else is 'small'? Don't say Edwards.

Our receiving core features Murphy (6'3), Bryant (6'5), Olsen (6'5), Rosario (6'4), LaFell (6'2), Gettis (6'3), Pilares (5'11), Edwards (5'11), Smith (5'9) and Adams (5'9). I don't see undersized WRs dominating anything.


only ones worth mentioning is smith and lafell. adding austin would give us two 5'9's and one 6'2 wr

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:27 AM

Biggest question I have is can Ausitn add 20 pounds and keep his speed. I would have like to see him add the weight before the combine but that didnt happen. 174 is to small to play everydown in the NFL without getting injured. While at the time I think he will be a great player. The Panthers would be wise to trade the 14th spot to a team for Austin and pick up a extra 2nd or 3rd round pick.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:28 AM

Besides, it adds more swag. (I kid)

Idk, I really like this guy. He's like a dance when he's moving. Okay, he's short. But there's too many upsides. He would be mothafuggin terror.

There's no such thing as a Smitty 2.0, never will be, but if there was, this guy is it.


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