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OR.... we could do what Cyprus is doing!

BTW - How much of 3.8 trillion annually do we need to run the government? You'll get no argument from me that DC is spending WAY too much period. The tax thing is merely trying to force the issue for 5 years and counting now.... DC is all like "DAMN THE TORPEDOES!"

Yeah.... Cyprus... that'll go over well. Get ready. It's coming whether you like it or not.... then again, YOU don't mind that do you? I mean... if you don't pay into the system, then you've actually got no skin in the game. So it works out rosy for you guys!

PS - Way to take this ball and run, buddy. You're doin' great!

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who proposed that? who are you arguing against now?

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You are the one that didn't propose a solution... I simply took the one that you guys normally propose... you actually have something in mind or are you just trying to think of something better?

I KNOW! COMMUNISM! amidoingitright?

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i normally propose taking money from the poor and giving it to rich bankers? it sounds like you don't really know what's happening in cyprus

anyway i said that austerity doesn't work (because it demonstrably does not), and that this is one of the many fuging silly policy planks of the tea party. in response i get "OH YEAH YOU AND YOUR FIAT MONEY AND WAHT ABOUT CYRPUS HUH"

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Yeah... in the meantime, you've yet to propose anything at all.

The reason you put your argument forth for debate is because it simply won't stand. The reason you won't debate an actual issue that I've put forth is because your lack of understanding becomes instantly apparent. As for taking money from the poor to give to bankers... again, you poor, poor child. Here, lemme help you with that. Banks aren't just taking those funds willy nilly... this was PASSED BY THE EU. Your precious centrally controlled government is now pushing for this.

Don't worry, you've got nothing to worry about since you've invested nothing. So long as it is other people's money, it's all good

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OR.... we could do what Cyprus is doing!

BTW - How much of 3.8 trillion annually do we need to run the government? You'll get no argument from me that DC is spending WAY too much period. The tax thing is merely trying to force the issue for 5 years and counting now.... DC is all like "DAMN THE TORPEDOES!"

Yeah.... Cyprus... that'll go over well. Get ready. It's coming whether you like it or not.... then again, YOU don't mind that do you? I mean... if you don't pay into the system, then you've actually got no skin in the game. So it works out rosy for you guys!

PS - Way to take this ball and run, buddy. You're doin' great!

Our revenue is at its lowest point since WWII. And every time there is a possibility of actually doing something fiscally responsible, politicians, generally the GOP, won't bend on any type of revenue from tax increases.

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Teeray coming through with denial in GRAND style!

And how exactly are taxes "revenue" again? Do I have a choice in paying for said "services"?

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The Tea Party's about lowering spending? Then why do they support things like drug testing for welfare recipients like Rick Scott pulled in Fla., a move that clearly cost more than it saves, thereby increasing government spending?

It's not hard if you think about it.

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And.... Delhommey with the strawman!

Are welfare programs afforded in the 18 enumerated powers outlined in the Constitution? Try again?

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My favorite enumerated power is

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years

Just to explain how completely dumb it is to think that 240 year old writings should be held as some kind of immovable object. Only people like that lady in the video could be so dopey to think that modern society can run like a frontier nation made up of landed white gentry, subjugated women with no power, a very significant portion of the nation made up as slaves with no rights whatsoever yet counted as part of an actual human being for the sole purpose of representation by white slave owners so they can remain slaves, and serfs.

The Constitution has some great ideas in it...for the late 1700s. A good many of them are still great ideas today. But there are still some great ideas from Roman times as well, and the Magna Carte still has some value. But the Founding Fathers would have never, ever, in their wildest dreams thought that two and a half centuries later, people would have the idea that their flowery ideas, tempered by severe compromise by the realities of the day, would be treated by some like they were the Word of God or something. Face the facts - this Constitutional Dogmatism is convenient only when it can be applied to things you don't like. In reality, it's a set of ideas for how things might work better, and has always been meant to be used as a living document, subject to interpretation by the people affected by it in the times they live in.

If your idea was actually implemented, we would rapidly devolve back into a backwards nation, economically unable to compete in the modern world, with a population relegated to subjugation, like the days of old, by the economically gifted - even more than today if thats even possible - you can trash our government all you want, but at least it's been able to slowly grant more rights, more opportunities, and more "pursuit of happiness" to more people, and the America you have always known, your entire life, has been in part created by things that the Founding Fathers would not have been able to comprehend. They would laugh at your slavish devotion to their words if they were not appalled at your misappropriation of them, because when they wrote them they had no idea how well they would work and in fact, they had to go back and rewrite their ideas 10 years down the road once they realized how many things they screwed up the first go round.

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First of all I want to say that I feel for the lady because she is obviously nervous, but in this video you get to the gist of the Tea Party movement which is revisionist history (she knows that Lincoln was a Republican but has no clue what the southern strategy was/is; not to mention to comparing the Tea Party to the Sons of Liberty) and oozing with white entitlement (selling "your" principles to help other ethnic groups).

She can't answer questions about who they are taking the country back from, and doesn't know exactly what time period they want to take the country back to (the 60's were good to her, but I wonder if African Americans would agree that the 60's were so swell).

When you wonder what is destroying the Republican party, just come back and watch this video.

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She sounds as bad as some of the Obama supporters. :)

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Yeah... in the meantime, you've yet to propose anything at all.

The reason you put your argument forth for debate is because it simply won't stand. The reason you won't debate an actual issue that I've put forth is because your lack of understanding becomes instantly apparent. As for taking money from the poor to give to bankers... again, you poor, poor child. Here, lemme help you with that. Banks aren't just taking those funds willy nilly... this was PASSED BY THE EU. Your precious centrally controlled government is now pushing for this.

Don't worry, you've got nothing to worry about since you've invested nothing. So long as it is other people's money, it's all good

if we're going to pretend that capitalism is sustainable long-term then the solution is of course to spend during a recession; austerity doesn't work. metallism doesn't work. go back to free republic.

also, you're fuging stupid IF you think leftists automatically support all government action just because it's "precious centrally controlled government"; just like you're fuging stupid IF you think government mandates to prop up blatant failures of capitalism (see: bank bailouts, obamacare, et al) are failures of socialism or whatever.

you're embarrassing yourself here. go back to free republic.

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