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Still they are comparable for the most

What isn't comparable is what happens when a defender gets a hand on them

that is true, however, we rarely get to see the opportunity happen with one of the two.

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One thing I don't get is why people are so high on cutting deangelo. I'm a fan of the game so the money he is getting paid doesn't affect me at all. He is still a great Rb.IMO this year we will lean heavily on our rbs. I would hope to see a more balanced attack without running our franchise QB more than our rbs.

Yeah, last off season people said we would run the RBs more and Cam would be a pocket passer....

We didn't run Cam more than our RBs but he needs his touches...he needs him bc is a significantly more dangerous runner than anyone else can be.

I am a fan of the Panthers...so highly paid money to guys sitting on the sidelines impacts the caliber of guys actually on the field

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that is true, however, we rarely get to see the opportunity happen with one of the two.

Really? Who is that. Stewart played a higher percentage of snaps than any RB in the division on 2011. Has been viewed as one of the most elusive RBs in the NFL for years now...

Stewart FINALLY misses a chunk of games 5 years into his career and people blow it out of proportion.

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Really? Who is that. Stewart played a higher percentage of snaps than any RB in the division on 2011. Has been viewed as one of the most elusive RBs in the NFL for years now...

Stewart FINALLY misses a chunk of games 5 years into his career and people blow it out of proportion.

Its 2013 now.

RB's in the NFL typically rarely see success after their 30's... Stewart has been injury prone over the last 2-3 years and its concern because he has gotten older [even though he isn't 30 yet]. So his value is not what it was in 09' which is what we are currently paying for.

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Its 2013 now.

RB's in the NFL typically rarely see success after their 30's... Stewart has been injury prone over the last 2-3 years and its concern because he has gotten older [even though he isn't 30 yet]. So his value is not what it was in 09' which is what we are currently paying for.

Okay...Williams is 30 now. Get rid of him now...and Stewart as soon as possible (which isn't now)

But I agree neither are worth what we pay them.

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Williams is 4 years older than Stewart.

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And still out runs him.

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And still out runs him.

And gets demoted back to back seasons in favor of Stewart...

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Yeah, last off season people said we would run the RBs more and Cam would be a pocket passer....

We didn't run Cam more than our RBs but he needs his touches...he needs him bc is a significantly more dangerous runner than anyone else can be.

I am a fan of the Panthers...so highly paid money to guys sitting on the sidelines impacts the caliber of guys actually on the field

Oh ok. You do make a good point there

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Wow, some posters in here don't know jack ****.

First of all, up until last year, Stewart had been our most durable RB. Williams has missed more games than Jonathan has in his career. So this "J-Stew can't stay healthy" crap is simply just that -- crap.

Second, Cam isn't a pocket passer? CRA, don't ever claim to be a Newton fan. If you even bothered to check Cam's stats, you would be aware that he spent more time in the pocket than RG3, Wilson and Kaepernick. He also obliterated Peyton Manning's passing efficiency record as a first year starter.

As for the Tolbert extension, fantastic. He's been our biggest free agent signing in years. Big Mike is a terror at the goal line.

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Wow, some posters in here don't know jack ****.

First of all, up until last year, Stewart had been our most durable RB. Williams has missed more games than Jonathan has in his career. So this "J-Stew can't stay healthy" crap is simply just that -- crap.

Second, Cam isn't a pocket passer? CRA, don't ever claim to be a Newton fan. If you even bothered to check Cam's stats, you would be aware that he spent more time in the pocket than RG3, Wilson and Kaepernick. He also obliterated Peyton Manning's passing efficiency record as a first year starter.

As for the Tolbert extension, fantastic. He's been our biggest free agent signing in years. Big Mike is a terror at the goal line.

I am one of the biggest Newton fans on this board...he isn't a pocket passer he is a dual threat. That means he CAN pass from the pocket but he ALSO runs. Saying someone isn't a pocket passer doesn't mean you can't pass from the pocket.

Manning is a pocket passer....Steve Young wasn't. Steve had more to his game

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I am one of the biggest Newton fans on this board...he isn't a pocket passer he is a dual threat. That means he CAN pass from the pocket but he ALSO runs. Saying someone isn't a pocket passer doesn't mean you can't pass from the pocket.

Manning is a pocket passer....Steve Young wasn't. Steve had more to his game

Given the opportunity, Newton could succeed as a pocket-passer. Cam has drawn comparisons from McNair to Big Ben to Rodgers. He absolutely has that potential. In fact, Newton impressed in a more traditional offense this past season. He's still raw but his QB career isn't dependent on his legs. That cannon attached to his body is indicative of that. Cam is the type of QB that Atlanta and Tennessee fans were hoping for when Vick and Young were respectively drafted.

Cam is apart of the new generation of dual threat QBs that could stay in the pocket and dismantle defenses with their arms alone. It's literally like comparing an iTouch G1/G2 to a iTouch G4/G5.

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