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Panthers exercise option for Tolbert in '14, '15.


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#37 SauceBoss

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:40 PM

I could guess a thousand different things...

For example, has anyone actually seen Gettlemen and Hurney together at the same time. Maybe Finlke is Einhorn...Maybe Hurney just gets prostetics, makeup, and uses an accent...

maybe we do run the wishbone...

maybe DWill is a June 1 cut bc every other team in the NFL would make that move...



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:43 PM

Vikings paid 65 million for one rb.
Until jackson was cut, he was a 55 million dollar man.

The money paid to our back field isn't out of whack at all, considering the talent we have.

Argue alll you want to how they haven't lived up to their contracts, which their production hasn't. That isn't their fault. It also isn't the fault of the man that gave them.their contracts.
You have to pay to retain talent Our back field is very talented.

Williams isn't going anywhere. Nobody is going to trade for him unless their desperate.

Our backfield will remain aa it is for another season, as we save no real money by changing it.

We should be grateful to have the talent and depth we have. Instead all most can do is bitch, cause they feel having that much talent in the backfield is holding the team back from being better.

tolbert is also theost talented FB we've had in the history of the franchise.



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:54 PM

Vikings paid 65 million for one rb.
Until jackson was cut, he was a 55 million dollar man.

The money paid to our back field isn't out of whack at all, considering the talent we have.

Argue alll you want to how they haven't lived up to their contracts, which their production hasn't. That isn't their fault. It also isn't the fault of the man that gave them.their contracts.
You have to pay to retain talent Our back field is very talented.

Williams isn't going anywhere. Nobody is going to trade for him unless their desperate.

Our backfield will remain aa it is for another season, as we save no real money by changing it.

We should be grateful to have the talent and depth we have. Instead all most can do is bitch, cause they feel having that much talent in the backfield is holding the team back from being better.

tolbert is also theost talented FB we've had in the history of the franchise.


Bang for your buck...

Do the Vikings have a backup sitting on the sidelines getting the amount of snaps Williams will with a healthy roster? accounting for that type cap space? 2012 we had a hurt backfield...

2012
Peterson - 11 mill cap hit
Williams - 7 million cap hit

Peterson - 2,097 rush yards, 12 rush TDs
Williams - 737 rush yards, 5 rush TDs

About having the best team....devoting that much cap space to a role player on the sidelines isn't the way to put the best team on the field. Who cares about bragging about guys on the sideline...

We don't and can't use them to be worth the investment. Newton team now...


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:58 PM

Vikings paid 65 million for one rb.
Until jackson was cut, he was a 55 million dollar man.

The money paid to our back field isn't out of whack at all, considering the talent we have.

Argue alll you want to how they haven't lived up to their contracts, which their production hasn't. That isn't their fault. It also isn't the fault of the man that gave them.their contracts.
You have to pay to retain talent Our back field is very talented.

Williams isn't going anywhere. Nobody is going to trade for him unless their desperate.

Our backfield will remain aa it is for another season, as we save no real money by changing it.

We should be grateful to have the talent and depth we have. Instead all most can do is bitch, cause they feel having that much talent in the backfield is holding the team back from being better.

tolbert is also theost talented FB we've had in the history of the franchise.


Doesn't matter how "talented" they are if they don't produce. AP out did all three of our backs combined for a cheaper price, so not sure how you compare them. There is a big difference between SJax and AP which completely put the offense on their back, and our situation, where Cam puts the offense on his back.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:57 PM

Doesn't matter the type.of.qb.Cam is. The.more talent around.him, the better. That includes the.back field

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:01 AM

Best, most complete, and cheapest RB on the team


Wtf??

Tolbert is a fullback.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:05 AM

Doesn't matter the type.of.qb.Cam is. The.more talent around.him, the better. That includes the.back field


On the field talent > depth talent

Over investing in depth limits what your on field talent can be




and talent at QB, scheme, etc. dictates where you invest on the field....Carolina isn't the place you load up on RBs at the moment (which is why a QB and FB out produced Double Trouble in rushing)

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:24 AM

I could be wrong but doesn't this free up more money down the road? It might not be the best short term thing to do, but it saves us money long term, something hurney screwed us with.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:30 AM

Another receiver.would.be.invested.depth.

Thanks.for.playing CRA.

It's always a great debate.with you.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 06:20 AM

Another receiver.would.be.invested.depth.

Thanks.for.playing CRA.

It's always a great debate.with you.


False. Comparing Williams to adding a WR is NOT a comparable situation.

Cute you think that is a debate.

One, Stewart is NOT on his last legs like Smith. Smith is ready to be downgraded to a new role....not Stewart. You can have 3 WRs on the field on basic offensive plays....you don't with RBs.

We need either a new #1, better # 2 (or Smith moving) or a true slot WR. Feel free to look at all 31 NFL teams who have multiple WRs....and none in NFL history that pay 2 RBs featured RB money.

You are so eager to argue the RB position you failing to think about what you are saying.

I. can. use. periods. too.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 06:24 AM

Wtf??

Tolbert is a fullback.

And Jared Cook is a TE

When he was in the field where did he line up

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 06:30 AM

If you think about it we went into this year paying 54 billion dollars to RBs.

The new GM has touched 2 RB deals...increasing the cap hits on both for this year.

Kinda funny. I am sure there is a method to the madness....but who would have guessed we would have all 3 and Gettlemen's first duties would involve in increasing the cap hits the RBs occupy


Has to be some cap fixing with all of it