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#11 Argus Plexus

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:19 AM

Our highest picks will be spent on either a WR, CB, or a S. That's what our FA interests are telling me.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:20 AM

Chuck - Cam currently has enough weapons to be successful. I love the young man's potential, but he's still growing. He's had opportunities to close out games in his 2 years, but he hasn't done it consistently. Can't always blame it on the supporting cast.

Kind of reminds me of Lebron James early in his career. He might drop 28 points, 8 rebounds and 8 assists. But he doesn't take a shot in the final 2 minutes of a game they lose by 2-4 points. Cam has to learn to finish. And he will. I'd argue he did a much better job of that towards the end of last season. Remember, everyone else in the passing game is Cam's supporting cast. The biggest thing the FO can do to help Cam develop right now is improve the o-line, so a running game can take some pressure off of him until he's ready to take over a game - like Manning, Brady and Brees... Wilson, RGIII and Ponder all benefit from that aspect of their offense.


What are you talking about? The defense failed Cam plenty of times these last two years. Granted, Newton hasn't been perfect but there's games where he has orchestrated a great 80 yard drive to bring them The Panthers back but then the defense can't stop the opposing offense and hold on.

• RG3 benefitted from the Eagle, Giant and Cowboy implosion. I doubt he'll be leading that squad into the playoffs next year.

• Wilson and Kaep pretty much landed on teams that already featured an elite level defenses and great OLs.

• Luck had a soft schedule (deserves credit however). The AFC is where the NFC was in a couple years back. Had Big Ben been healthy, I don't know if The Colts would have gotten the final spot.

Cam made his share of mistakes but his surrounding cast didn't do him any favors either (that includes Special Teams and the coaching staff).

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:31 AM

Cam will be an MVP candidate this year. Not saying he will win, he will be in the running.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:47 AM

terrible teammates and terrible coaches- it's like we are doing everything in our power to ruin his career
if he sticks with us, in 10-20 years he could be a precautionary tale of how not to develop a talented QB

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:51 AM

At some point you have to look at the coaching staff of those teams and not the "supporting cast". All those teams have tenured coaches that have been around and know what they're doing. Ours seems to still be learning the ropes and may never amount to anything. JR and Marty handcuffed Cam to a coach that may not ever be up to snuff. That's the reality of the situation.


And how much of failed coaching and staff until you question the owner?

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:19 PM

In my opinion, Chud and Rivera were a huge reason as to why Cam struggled earlier in the season. Newton wasn't allowed to audible at all, the playcalling was bewildering (an 80 million dollar backfield was neglected), the game planning was dreadful (played into defenses' strengths) and game management SUCKED.

We all know the deal with Chud but I wonder if Rivera is cut out to be a head coach or if it's inexperience that's hindering him at this stage.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:20 PM

There are pretty much two camps in regards to Rivera. In one camp you have the folks who are not happy with him, and will use any mistake, flub up, or flaw from the last two years to harp on getting rid of him.

The other camp is full of folks with faith that he is getting there. And that he has earned the right to see this thing through to the end.

Personally, I sas a much more consistent and aggressive coach the last half of last year. I also saw a team that played that way. Fewer penalties, mistakes, and wtf moments. And the reason we were winning games was because we were actually a pretty good team.

Best case for me. We make the playoffs and Rivera solidifies his position as a young and successful coach.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:29 PM

It is has. Not have.
HAS.

Learn english you dumb fug.

* also "find" in the past tense is "found".

The more you know.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:45 PM

Cant answer this until the draft is over.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:58 PM

It is has. Not have.
HAS.

Learn english you dumb fug.

* also "find" in the past tense is "found".

The more you know.


Like I said, I know who you are.
Don't hide behind your ALT.
And get out my post if you don't like it. It's up for one reason, to talk about football, not grammar.


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