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Sen. Elizabeth Warren Makes Case for $22-an-hour Minimum Wage.

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I agree with pstall you can't just look at the overall picture to get a grasp of the problem. You need to hammer down to the details to figure everything out and not focus on a big brush to fix it all.

One thing to keep in mind is the need for unskilled labor is dwindling away. It's always going to be there, but as a percentage of the entire workforce it's becoming trivial.

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Deficit spending in itself is not a bad thing and is often needed. There is no rule of economics that says that you have to spend less than you take in.

And if you are frustrated, blame the people who deserve the blame, which is the Republican party. 1980-1992 and 2000-2008 are actually the time frames that fugged up our government spending and revenue forever.

You could make the argument Reagan's huge tax cut and military spending was needed at the time, but the Bush (43rd) tax cuts, taking us to two wars without raising any revenue to pay for it, expansion of medicare without raising any revenue to pay for it. All that fugged us.

You can complain and bitch about Obamacare and the spending that goes with it. But at least it was offset with taxes, fees, and spending restructuring. The Republicans paid for nothing reduced revenue with tax cuts and increased spending astronomically last decade and even though Obama has slowed spending to it slowest rate of growth since the 50's we still are getting crushed.

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If you are truly worried about fiscal responsibility it is probably time you do what I and everyone else is starting to do and dump the Republican Party.

If you are full of poo, and aren't really concerned about spending and deficits, and you just want to hate Democrats, then keep carrying the Republican torch, but don't talk about fiscal responsibility.

Hey Sparky, how far back does 12 years go in your world?

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Hey Sparky, how far back does 12 years go in your world?

Sparky, the deficit problem and in particular the revenue problem is an issue that comes from more than 12 years ago.

And if you were to make that argument you should have just said from 2000-2009, because that is the real issue. The current administration has been among the most frugal in spending in modern history and is still trying to find new ways to cut spending and future growth even more.

Obama has been more conservative than any Republican leadership in recent memory. Conservatives should be putting this guy on their shoulders and championing him, but they live in the Fox News, Drudge Report, Rush bubble so they think he has been spending out of control.

If anything we should be raising taxes more than making deep cuts to spending right now.

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I'm a big fan of tying people wages to their productivity/profitability.

I think it's the heart of capitalism is it not? M

Where is Jase....

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Sparky, the deficit problem and in particular the revenue problem is an issue that comes from more than 12 years ago.

And if you were to make that argument you should have just said from 2000-2008, because that is the real issue. The current administration has been among the most frugal in spending in modern history and is still trying to find new ways to cut spending and future growth even more.

Obama has been more conservative than any Republican leadership in recent memory. Conservatives should be putting this guy on their shoulders and championing him, but they live in the Fox News, Drudge Report, Rush bubble so they think he has been spending out of control.

If anything we should be raising taxes more than making deep cuts to spending right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. MSNBC is on, run along, so you will know what to say tomorrow.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. MSNBC is on, run along, so you will know what to say tomorrow.

I rarely if ever watch any 24 hour news. MSNBC or otherwise. That data comes from the CBO and OMB. Not MSNBC.

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looks like stirs is left without a leg to stand on yet again, be careful before you get to G5 levels.

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The one thing that can be inferred from most if the posts in this thread.....

Either most of you did not take Economics or you failed it.

Supply and Demand dictates wages. Gov't intervention only makes it worse.

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The one thing that can be inferred from most if the posts in this thread.....

Either most of you did not take Wconomics or you failed it.

Supply and Demand dictates wages. Gov't intervention only makes it worse.

Yes, if only the government would get out of the picture we could go back to the good old days of the late 1800s, when times were great for the average worker

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You just can't pay unskilled labor like skilled labor, it just won't work.

Say a person has worked his way up to $22 an hour at their job, and the new guy starts getting $22 an hour the next day, does the first persons pay go up?

If not, and both pays stay $22 an hour, that's really close to communism, no?

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The one thing that can be inferred from most if the posts in this thread.....

Either most of you did not take Wconomics or you failed it.

Supply and Demand dictates wages. Gov't intervention only makes it worse.

Never took, just sharing opinion

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It's wage warfare....

My question is how come wages have not increased at a time of record profits and record salaries at the top?

no one is actually going to address this

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