Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Dying Veterans last letter to Bush and Cheney


  • Please log in to reply
21 replies to this topic

#1 Cage

Cage

    Killer

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 525 posts
  • LocationHustlin' in the streets

Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:39 PM

Letter: http://www.truthdig....etter_20130318/
(site for letter may be down because of high traffic)
Letter text:

To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
From: Tomas Young
I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.
I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all—the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.

I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.
Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.
I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States. I did not join the Army to “liberate” Iraqis or to shut down mythical weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities or to implant what you cynically called “democracy” in Baghdad and the Middle East. I did not join the Army to rebuild Iraq, which at the time you told us could be paid for by Iraq’s oil revenues. Instead, this war has cost the United States over $3 trillion. I especially did not join the Army to carry out pre-emptive war. Pre-emptive war is illegal under international law. And as a soldier in Iraq I was, I now know, abetting your idiocy and your crimes. The Iraq War is the largest strategic blunder in U.S. history. It obliterated the balance of power in the Middle East. It installed a corrupt and brutal pro-Iranian government in Baghdad, one cemented in power through the use of torture, death squads and terror. And it has left Iran as the dominant force in the region. On every level—moral, strategic, military and economic—Iraq was a failure. And it was you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney, who started this war. It is you who should pay the consequences.

I have, like many other disabled veterans, suffered from the inadequate and often inept care provided by the Veterans Administration. I have, like many other disabled veterans, come to realize that our mental and physical wounds are of no interest to you, perhaps of no interest to any politician. We were used. We were betrayed. And we have been abandoned. You, Mr. Bush, make much pretense of being a Christian. But isn’t lying a sin? Isn’t murder a sin? Aren’t theft and selfish ambition sins? I am not a Christian. But I believe in the Christian ideal. I believe that what you do to the least of your brothers you finally do to yourself, to your own soul.I would not be writing this letter if I had been wounded fighting in Afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of 9/11. Had I been wounded there I would still be miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death, but I would at least have the comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend the country I love. I would not have to lie in my bed, my body filled with painkillers, my life ebbing away, and deal with the fact that hundreds of thousands of human beings, including children, including myself, were sacrificed by you for little more than the greed of oil companies, for your alliance with the oil sheiks in Saudi Arabia, and your insane visions of empire.
My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come. I hope you will be put on trial. But mostly I hope, for your sakes, that you find the moral courage to face what you have done to me and to many, many others who deserved to live. I hope that before your time on earth ends, as mine is now ending, you will find the strength of character to stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness.


As a veteran myself I feel so bad for this guy. I understand the impotent rage he must be feeling for having a bright future ruined for basically nothing. Not a day goes by when I'm not thankful I didn't get blown up or shot because (like him) I was young and full of piss and vinegar. Anyway, THIS is the true cost of war. Forget all the macho bullshit. Young people like him dying for a bunch of lies. The poo is pathetic.

#2 g5jamz

g5jamz

    Is back

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,338 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:02 PM

I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded


Who does he think he is to speak on the behalf of all those soldiers.

Every armed conflict our leaders choose for us to be involved are decisions based on information they feel is the best they have at the time. Be it Libya, Somalia, Vietnam, Korea, WW2, etc...you join the service to serve as a volunteer at the behest of the commander in chief, the president. Does his situation suck? Absolutely. Since when did he think his personal goal was going to achieve utopia in the MIddle East.

Just yesterday we hear Syria (someone) used chemical weapons on a group of its own citizens. Who cares right? Can you remember the last jack-A that did that?

Sad as his situation is, and I applaud his sacrifice to his country...he signed up knowing this was a possible outcome. Be it sending an armed guard to some embassy in BFE country that doesn't want us there and someone gets hurt. Be it anything...ANYWHERE you're asked to go do something...that's your job.

#3 LiQuiD

LiQuiD

    Plumb Crazy

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,256 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:21 PM

I can't believe this, but I'm in agreement with G5.

#4 Gazi

Gazi

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,798 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:04 PM

He has a right to voice his opinion. He paid for it 10x over

#5 Delhommey

Delhommey

    Moderator

  • Moderators
  • 12,516 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:33 PM

Who does he think he is to speak on the behalf of all those soldiers.

Every armed conflict our leaders choose for us to be involved are decisions based on information they feel is the best they have at the time. Be it Libya, Somalia, Vietnam, Korea, WW2, etc...you join the service to serve as a volunteer at the behest of the commander in chief, the president. Does his situation suck? Absolutely. Since when did he think his personal goal was going to achieve utopia in the MIddle East.

Just yesterday we hear Syria (someone) used chemical weapons on a group of its own citizens. Who cares right? Can you remember the last jack-A that did that?

Sad as his situation is, and I applaud his sacrifice to his country...he signed up knowing this was a possible outcome. Be it sending an armed guard to some embassy in BFE country that doesn't want us there and someone gets hurt. Be it anything...ANYWHERE you're asked to go do something...that's your job.


This soldier signed up for war, so even if he was led into it for no other reason than the personal gain of a few on the basis of a huge lie, he should just shut up and take it.

WTG, g5. WTG.

#6 Cage

Cage

    Killer

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 525 posts
  • LocationHustlin' in the streets

Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:53 PM

He (like a lot of guys that joined because they were pissed) got lied to. He essentially joined under false pretenses due to those lies and now he will die for it. I'm not sure I follow or agree with the "our wise rulers know best logic". Especially when G5 seems so distrustful of the government in other aspects. That's selective.......

#7 MadHatter

MadHatter

    The Only Voice of Reason

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,375 posts
  • LocationDark Side of the Moon

Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:05 PM

He (like a lot of guys that joined because they were pissed) got lied to. He essentially joined under false pretenses due to those lies and now he will die for it. I'm not sure I follow or agree with the "our wise rulers know best logic". Especially when G5 seems so distrustful of the government in other aspects. That's selective.......


He may not agree with why we went to war. However, those who joined the military and draw a paycheck are there for one reason....to fight wars.

I feel for anyone who gives their life. But, he signed up for it.....voluntarily.

#8 carpantherfan84

carpantherfan84

    Abductive Reasoner

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,687 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:13 PM

Who does he think he is to speak on the behalf of all those soldiers.

Every armed conflict our leaders choose for us to be involved are decisions based on information they feel is the best they have at the time. Be it Libya, Somalia, Vietnam, Korea, WW2, etc...you join the service to serve as a volunteer at the behest of the commander in chief, the president. Does his situation suck? Absolutely. Since when did he think his personal goal was going to achieve utopia in the MIddle East.

Just yesterday we hear Syria (someone) used chemical weapons on a group of its own citizens. Who cares right? Can you remember the last jack-A that did that?

Sad as his situation is, and I applaud his sacrifice to his country...he signed up knowing this was a possible outcome. Be it sending an armed guard to some embassy in BFE country that doesn't want us there and someone gets hurt. Be it anything...ANYWHERE you're asked to go do something...that's your job.


What do you know of the sacrifices this soldier has endured. People join the military with such a strong belief in this nation that though our lives may be lost, they will not be thrown away. We put faith in our leaders, leaders elected by the people. Because of this the people have a huge responsibility to properly vet the people who make those decisions. How would your life be if every troop believed that the American public cares so little for his life that it would throw it away for nothing as you claim he should believe. How strong would this nation be if noone joined the military.

#9 g5jamz

g5jamz

    Is back

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,338 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:33 PM

This soldier signed up for war, so even if he was led into it for no other reason than the personal gain of a few on the basis of a huge lie, he should just shut up and take it.

WTG, g5. WTG.


I didn't tell HIM to shutup dumbass. It's the presumption he thinks he speaks for every soldier that fought in Iraq.

#10 cookinwithgas

cookinwithgas

    Grey Poupon Elitest Trash

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 22,967 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:37 PM

Maybe you should take the time to read the damn thing, since he didn't say that.

#11 g5jamz

g5jamz

    Is back

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,338 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:49 PM

Maybe you should take the time to read the damn thing, since he didn't say that.


I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded


Look up the word "behalf".

#12 Cage

Cage

    Killer

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 525 posts
  • LocationHustlin' in the streets

Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:51 PM

What do you know of the sacrifices this soldier has endured. People join the military with such a strong belief in this nation that though our lives may be lost, they will not be thrown away. We put faith in our leaders, leaders elected by the people. Because of this the people have a huge responsibility to properly vet the people who make those decisions. How would your life be if every troop believed that the American public cares so little for his life that it would throw it away for nothing as you claim he should believe. How strong would this nation be if noone joined the military.


^This. This is why he is so pissed; and why so many other vets are pissed while others are just thankful and grateful that we were spared. Of course you know what you sign up for. But nobody wants their sacrifice to be for nothing. Saying something stupid like, "he should have known" or "he should have been prepared for this" is absurd. I enlisted in the USMC at 19 (two years after 9-11); nobody at 19 is seriously thinking "man....I might get fuged up or die". Most people that joined up around that time did so because they felt a call of duty born from the fact that they felt their nation deserved to be protected and that they were doing the right thing for the right reasons. It sucks when you have to face the fact that in the end the people at the top used you and used your sense of duty to do shady poo.

#13 cookinwithgas

cookinwithgas

    Grey Poupon Elitest Trash

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 22,967 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:54 PM

Look up the word "behalf".


He clearly meant it wrote it on behalf of the dead and wounded.

I am sure that many don't agree with his assessment.

Behalf: G5's parents last desperate plea to make their son worth something, in a sentence:

G5! If you can't be a real man, at least try to behalf a man!

#14 g5jamz

g5jamz

    Is back

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,338 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:57 PM

No one VOLUNTEERS with the anticipation they're going to die or be wounded ONLY for just causes.

Do you think those snipers in Mogadishu asked to support their downed chopper pilot with the thought what they were doing was making a better Mogadishu? Hell freaking no. They did it because they chose to answer the call of whatever their country asked them to do and in situations like that...act like brothers in arms....true Band of Brothers. In fact...in the end of the Black Hawk Down movie...you get that spiel. It's not about the cause. It's about being there for your fellow soldier and do your job. That's it.

Want to bitch? Get out and do all the bitching you want. I get that. He has every right to bitch and complain, but to assume he speaks on behalf of ALL Iraqi veterans. The sentence that CWG has a complete blindfold when reading...is a reach.

#15 carpantherfan84

carpantherfan84

    Abductive Reasoner

  • HUDDLER
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,687 posts

Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:12 PM

No one VOLUNTEERS with the anticipation they're going to die or be wounded ONLY for just causes.

Do you think those snipers in Mogadishu asked to support their downed chopper pilot with the thought what they were doing was making a better Mogadishu? Hell freaking no. They did it because they chose to answer the call of whatever their country asked them to do and in situations like that...act like brothers in arms....true Band of Brothers. In fact...in the end of the Black Hawk Down movie...you get that spiel. It's not about the cause. It's about being there for your fellow soldier and do your job. That's it.

Want to bitch? Get out and do all the bitching you want. I get that. He has every right to bitch and complain, but to assume he speaks on behalf of ALL Iraqi veterans. The sentence that CWG has a complete blindfold when reading...is a reach.


You are right soldiers do fight for the soldier to their left or right, but we volunteer for the belief in our country. But the idealism that creates the deep cultural drive that leads young men and women to give their lives must be protected. This means that those that abuse the trust that soldiers have in their leaders ability to use them justly must be punished. It is necessary for the survival of this nation. If that trust is lost what would become of the military? If the common citizen appreciates the quality of life they enjoy as Americans they would do well to put serious effort into picking worthy leaders and not base their decisions on media/pundit/extremists views.


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Shop at Amazon Contact Us: info@carolinahuddle.com