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Still prochoice for late-term abortions?

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That post was just as relevant as the responses so far, but for some reason that was where you drew the line. Interesting.....

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he's a hypocrite

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So what part about gays do you feel is a federal issue.

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So the outrage here in the Tbox is with G5?

How can you not be outraged at the barbarian who called himself a doctor? Typical.

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So the outrage here in the Tbox is with G5?

How can you not be outraged at the barbarian who called himself a doctor? Typical.

Uhhhh, because its well understood that he is a terrible excuse for a human being. I dont feel the need to point out that I dont support every murderer out there. The guy was essentially a hit man

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My stances have changed a good bit on abortion. I am def pro life and think it should be kept to a minimum, but it should be legal for early term abortions. I don't think the gov't should subsidize it in any way however.

Why, exactly? I dont think the government has any place in legislating morality, and paying for an abortion saves a ton of money over supporting this kid whose parents may not be in a position to support him.

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Why, exactly? I dont think the government has any place in legislating morality, and paying for an abortion saves a ton of money over supporting this kid whose parents may not be in a position to support him.

A- because of what I bolded... they shouldn't legislate (early term) abortion either way. Don't outlaw it and don't fund it.

B- it should be a personal choice and since it is, that person should have to deal with the entirety of making that choice. Get pregnant and don't want to have the baby, you make the decision to get an abortion, you pay for it, and you deal with the consequences.

Whether you like it or not, the gov't does legislate morality. It is immoral to kill someone, so it's illegal. It's immoral to steal, so it's illegal. To some, aborting a 2 day old fetus is murder. To some others, aborting a fetus that's 8.9 months is perfectly fine... the gov't has the job to decided where that line is. If not the gov't then who?

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I think most pro-choice advocates would agree that they are not Pro-Abortion, just Pro-Choice so that there is an option in certain instances..not birth Control or whatever extreme spin on can make against it.

And logically there is an understanding of developmental stages where it is too far...this clearly being it.

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I do. But basic human rights are still protected by the constitution. Life...liberty..that sort of thing?

Unless you want that grey too....which you already have.

Dont you have to be born in the USA to be a US citizen and have rights? Aborted babies aren't born. just sayin

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A- because of what I bolded... they shouldn't legislate (early term) abortion either way. Don't outlaw it and don't fund it.

B- it should be a personal choice and since it is, that person should have to deal with the entirety of making that choice. Get pregnant and don't want to have the baby, you make the decision to get an abortion, you pay for it, and you deal with the consequences.

Whether you like it or not, the gov't does legislate morality. It is immoral to kill someone, so it's illegal. It's immoral to steal, so it's illegal. To some, aborting a 2 day old fetus is murder. To some others, aborting a fetus that's 8.9 months is perfectly fine... the gov't has the job to decided where that line is. If not the gov't then who?

I dont think the government really legislates morality. There are laws of course, but they generally exist to protect other people from you and you from them.

Back to abortion though- I agree that ideally the issue of abortion shouldnt come up, you should use contraception if you have sex and dont want a kid. But realistically, abortions aren't cheap and if a woman cant afford to pay for an abortion, the cheaper alternative is going through with the pregnancy and giving the baby up for adoption.

I hate to make this issue about money, but if you want the government to spend money pragmatically, affording poor women free abortions will probably save money long term

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I hate to make this issue about money, but if you want the government to spend money pragmatically, affording poor women free abortions will probably save money long term

That is a valid point, however I disagree on moral grounds... the same could be said of poor kids... and granted that's taking the idea to the extreme, but to me a life is a life.

You're definitely right, in the long run economically it would definitely end up cheaper... fewer schools, etc. but that's a horrible way to save money.

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There is no probably. It will save money long term.

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