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Still prochoice for late-term abortions?

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[img]http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/1/9/4/7/4/8/1/peanuts-104153956598.jpeg[/img]

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Best part of that pic is that you can choose most of those things.

Are people not allowed to honor god?
Are people not allowed to smoke?
Own a gun?
Etc etc

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Why is Linus always the neocon and Lucy always gotta be the strawman libtard?

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[quote name='Sheikh Zula' timestamp='1364244071' post='2175100']
Why is Linus always the neocon and Lucy always gotta be the strawman libtard?
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Think it is in her genes. She is always fawning over the piano player too. Guess she is more "artsy"

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I can do everyone of those things, which makes it a perfect conservative statement.

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[quote name='cookinwithgas' timestamp='1364254322' post='2175452']
I can do everyone of those things, which makes it a perfect conservative statement.
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They'd notice that if they actually took two seconds to think about the graphic instead of accepting what it says automatically as true. I guess thats just how their brains are trained to work, zero critical thinking skills, baaa baaa. :)

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I support abortion all the way into the hundredth trimester.

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[quote name='g5jamz' timestamp='1364214228' post='2174586']
And partial birth abortions were murder as well...just certain doctors had the thought that as long as the baby didn't travel x amount of inches...it was ok to jab something in the brain and scramble them before the finishing of delivery.

But the public never really referred to partial birth abortions as murder. But nothing will ever happen with a president that was the only person in the Illinois senate to vote for a bill to allow people like Kermit to kill a baby that survived the procedure that normally causes death in the fetus.
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Not altogether true, but why let facts get in the way of your argument?

Obama voted on seven different abortion-related State Bills, 2 in 1997 and 5 in 2004. All of those votes were neither a "yes" nor a "no" vote. And in none of those votes was he "the only person in the Illinois senate to vote for a bill..." as you state. Obama voted "present" on all of those votes, which is considered not a 'yes' vote, since the 'yes' vote tally determines the outcome of the bill.

[b]1997 Votes[/b][list]
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/status/900SB0230.html"]SB 230[/url] Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. Senate approved bill 44-7, with [url="http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans90/ST031897.pdf"]five senators voting present[/url], including Obama.
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/status/900HB0382.html"]HB 382[/url] Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. House version, passed Illinois State Senate, adopted as law. Under the bill, doctors who perform partial-birth abortions could be sent to prison for one to three years. The woman would not be held liable.
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[b]2001 Votes[/b][list]
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920HB1900.html"]HB 1900[/url] Parental Notice of Abortion Act. Bill passed 38-10, with [url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920HB1900_05162001_010000T.PDF"]nine present votes[/url], including Obama.
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB0562.html"]SB 562[/url] Parental Notice of Abortion Act. Bill passed Senate 39-7, with [url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB0562_04062001_006000T.PDF"]11 present votes[/url], including Obama.
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1093.html"]SB 1093[/url] Law to protect Liveborn children. Bill passed 34-6, [url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1093_03302001_028000T.PDF"]with 12 present[/url], including Obama.
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/summary/920SB1094.html"]SB 1094[/url] Bill to protect children born as result of induced labor abortion. Bill passed 33-6, [url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1094_03302001_029000T.PDF"]with 13 present[/url], including Obama.
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1095.html"]SB 1095[/url] Bill defining "born alive" defines "born-alive infant" to include infant "born alive at any stage of development." Bill passed 34-5, [url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1095_03302001_030000T.PDF"]with nine present[/url], including Obama
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[url="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_voting_record_on_aborti_1.html"]http://voices.washin...n_aborti_1.html[/url]

See, g5, you could have used a factual argument based on reality and still been correct. Instead, you opted for a few complete falsehoods and, while you're still kind of right, you lost major cred along the way. But again, don't let something trivial, like facts, cloud your vision....

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you need to have cred before you can lose it

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[quote name='Happy Panther' timestamp='1364228018' post='2174799']
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All of these things are the same!

No one is stopping you from smoking. I smoke, I just can't do it where you can harm other people. Light bulbs really? Who stopped you from honoring God? You can not mix it with the State, but you can honor him/her/it all day long, any God of you choosing in fact! Lastly no one is taking your guns, calm down.

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[quote name='spartan_pantherfan' timestamp='1364351447' post='2177157']
All of these things are the same!

No one is stopping you from smoking. I smoke, I just can't do it where you can harm other people. Light bulbs really? Who stopped you from honoring God? You can not mix it with the State, but you can honor him/her/it all day long, any God of you choosing in fact! Lastly no one is taking your guns, calm down.
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Take it up with [size=4]Charles M. Schulz.[/size]

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[quote name='Anybodyhome' timestamp='1364335287' post='2176658']
Not altogether true, but why let facts get in the way of your argument?

Obama voted on seven different abortion-related State Bills, 2 in 1997 and 5 in 2004. All of those votes were neither a "yes" nor a "no" vote. And in none of those votes was he "the only person in the Illinois senate to vote for a bill..." as you state. Obama voted "present" on all of those votes, which is considered not a 'yes' vote, since the 'yes' vote tally determines the outcome of the bill.

[b]1997 Votes[/b][list]
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/status/900SB0230.html"]SB 230[/url] Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. Senate approved bill 44-7, with [url="http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans90/ST031897.pdf"]five senators voting present[/url], including Obama.
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/status/900HB0382.html"]HB 382[/url] Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. House version, passed Illinois State Senate, adopted as law. Under the bill, doctors who perform partial-birth abortions could be sent to prison for one to three years. The woman would not be held liable.
[/list]
[b]2001 Votes[/b][list]
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920HB1900.html"]HB 1900[/url] Parental Notice of Abortion Act. Bill passed 38-10, with [url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920HB1900_05162001_010000T.PDF"]nine present votes[/url], including Obama.
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB0562.html"]SB 562[/url] Parental Notice of Abortion Act. Bill passed Senate 39-7, with [url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB0562_04062001_006000T.PDF"]11 present votes[/url], including Obama.
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1093.html"]SB 1093[/url] Law to protect Liveborn children. Bill passed 34-6, [url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1093_03302001_028000T.PDF"]with 12 present[/url], including Obama.
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/summary/920SB1094.html"]SB 1094[/url] Bill to protect children born as result of induced labor abortion. Bill passed 33-6, [url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1094_03302001_029000T.PDF"]with 13 present[/url], including Obama.
[*][url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1095.html"]SB 1095[/url] Bill defining "born alive" defines "born-alive infant" to include infant "born alive at any stage of development." Bill passed 34-5, [url="http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1095_03302001_030000T.PDF"]with nine present[/url], including Obama
[/list]
[url="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_voting_record_on_aborti_1.html"]http://voices.washin...n_aborti_1.html[/url]

See, g5, you could have used a factual argument based on reality and still been correct. Instead, you opted for a few complete falsehoods and, while you're still kind of right, you lost major cred along the way. But again, don't let something trivial, like facts, cloud your vision....
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You failed to show his committee vote.

He only voted "present" on the floor bill because he didn't want to be accountable now. Which you're giving him cover. Either way...who the heck votes "present" on that vote.

You're welcome to go factcheck that.

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