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#196 carpanfan96

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:55 PM

Patrick Willis, Vilma, Lofton.




LMAO...... Lofton.... Seriously.


Wow. You lost your argument for just using Lofton in a debate about NFL coverage linebackers.

You actually probably picked the worst coverage linebacker in the NFL with Lofton and putting him ahead of Kuechly in pass coverage tells me you either don't watch football or simply just don't understand it.


Here's Kuechly's draft profile from a credible site..... lmao BR....


http://www.nfl.com/d...chly?id=2533056


STRENGTHS

Kuechly is one of the most instinctual and technically sound linebackers to enter the draft in years, and he had the tackle production throughout his career to back it up. He is able to avoid trash at his knees and is elite when it comes to shedding blockers and keeping himself free to the ball. He is excellent working over the top of tight ends to maul and delay their release, and is capable of running with them down the field. He has the sudden burst and long speed to cover a very wide range against the run and is an extremely sure-handed tackler.



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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:00 AM

Patrick Willis, Vilma, Lofton.


You're citing two of three linebackers on the worst defense in NFL history as examples of the elite?

Seriously? :unsure:

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:05 AM

Been awhile since I've seen this much fail on the interweb and that's saying a lot.

Kuechly was said to be by many respected analysts to be one of the best coverage LBs to come out of college in years.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:09 AM

Kuechly plays a LOT faster than his 40 time.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:12 AM

Kuechly plays a LOT faster than his 40 time.


That's what instincts will do for you. Running in the 4.5s is no joke for a LB already. But, when you combine good instincts with 4.5 speed, you get a blazing fast LB.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:24 AM

Yep he hits that hole hard....badabum tsssshhh

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:41 AM

1. Let me make this statement. fug Rivera's doghouse. It's the strangest poo ever. How players get on it is a mystery and if he let's his doghouse get in the way of putting a talented player on the field. Then he won't be the coach for long.

2. Gettis has a few things going for him.

He's cheap.

He's young.

He has more upside then any WR on this roster.

Last not only is he a deep threat with track speed. He is a big target in the Red zone.

Something Gettlemen mention he wanted.


Damn it, KKL, if you aren't singing LaFell's praises, you are singing an ode to Gettis. In reality, LaFell is a WR3, plain and simple, and Gettis is a big question mark that could easily be cut, cheap or not (especially when you have guys like Barden and Hixon out there that Gettleman knows).

Rivera is simple, really: Handle your business and you find your way onto the field. fug up, and you get intimate with the bench. It's really nothing mysterious about it.

And saying that Gettis has more upside than any WR on this roster (other than Smitty, I assume), really ain't saying anything because our WR corps is upside down---like a loan.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:50 AM

now give me denario alexander



If this would happen, you can say good bye to Lamont Bryant and David Gettis. Which would not be a bad thing.

What exactly would need to happen in order for this to come to fruition?

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:07 AM

Damn it, KKL, if you aren't singing LaFell's praises, you are singing an ode to Gettis. In reality, LaFell is a WR3, plain and simple, and Gettis is a big question mark that could easily be cut, cheap or not (especially when you have guys like Barden and Hixon out there that Gettleman knows).

Rivera is simple, really: Handle your business and you find your way onto the field. fug up, and you get intimate with the bench. It's really nothing mysterious about it.

And saying that Gettis has more upside than any WR on this roster (other than Smitty, I assume), really ain't saying anything because our WR corps is upside down---like a loan.


I'm sorry I support the Player on our team that have actually shown talent. I promise to keep doing it as long as I can.

By the way Lafell is a solid number #2 Wr and untill Gettis is cut he still in the plans and has value.

It is very easy to cut him without any cap hit but they haven't done it yet. So somebody in that buliding may see the same value I see in him.


Rivera is simple, really: Handle your business and you find your way onto the field. fug up, and you get intimate with the bench. It's really nothing mysterious about it.


That didn't seem the rule with Nake or any of the Guards that were getting Cam killed.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:29 AM

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:16 AM

By the way Lafell is a solid number #2 Wr...


What you consider "solid", I consider decidedly mediocre (or gossamer). Here is a debate I had earlier:

Find me 14 other wide outs who put up nearly 700 yards and four touchdowns.


Eric Decker, Lance Moore, Julio Jones, Mike Williams, Victor Cruz, Justin Blackmon, Randall Cobb, Miles Austin, Ty Hilton, Jeremy Maclin, Torrey Smith, James Jones, Sidney Rice. Antonio Brown. Andre Roberts.

All i have put up better stats that you just stated and none are number 1 receivers. I can keep going if you want.


Um... the majority of those guys are number one's...


Are you kidding me? Now you're just being silly.


Like you he just wanted to prove his point at all costs, so he got technical on me

Easiest way to see who is right against who is wrong is go directly off of team's depth charts, not based off of opinion. So let's take a look shall we...

Julio Jones, Sidney Rice, Antonio Brown, Victor Cruz, Justin Blackmon, and Jeremy Maclin are all listed as one's based on teams depth chart's.


Well, since you are more concerned with being right, on a technicality, let me tell you that you are absolutely correct. You deserve a cookie. But... then let's take the earlier list and take the ones that apparently aren't technically listed as WR1s and add, Roddy White, Golden Tate, Mike Wallace, Hakeem Nicks, Cecil Shorts, and Desean Jackson. I suppose you think that LaFell can currently take his place among that number...?




I don't see why not, you have to remember that we had a tight end that took a lot of receptions/yards/touchdowns away from our wide receivers. If I'm not mistaken, Greg Olsen was third in receiving yards this year for tight ends.

Also, I wouldn't put DeSean Jackson on that list... just for reference.


To your first remark: Becuase LaFell has never consistently been able to carry his team like Roddy White, Golden Tate, Mike Wallace, Hakeem Nicks, Cecil Shorts, or Desean Jackson have shown the ability to do when their WR1 (as listed on the web site as you so correctly pointed out) was receiving double coverage, out, or just not having a good day. To be blunt, I would say that everyone other than Tate is a quasi WR1 (which is really the point), but even Tate is better than LaFell when you look at his impact on the team.

Regarding D-Jax, he logically should be included in the list. You do see what I did with the list, right? The list was really a product of your own making.


You guys are killing me with this LaFell is a solid #2 stuff. If LaFell is solid, I wonder why all these guys who are technically listed as 2s, or guys that we may think of as 2s are considered around the league to be overall better players, if not legitimate threats, and really make LaFell look relatively sub par when it comes to impacting football games. I'm just sorry; if you can't be highly productive---and I said highly productive---opposite 89 after your third year in the league, then you just aren't the guy to do the job. Even Tate put up 688 yards and 7 TDs. I bet most FOs would be knocking on Tate's door before LaFell's, so I wouldn't exactly call that a ringing endorsement as a WR2. This does not make LaFell a bad WR, it just means that he is what he is; a solid WR3 IMO.

If he is the most solid WR we got to complement Smitty (which he is), then we have a bleeding wound on the other side that needs stitches, but actually has Band-Aids.

The same old arguments and excuses about LaFell and Gettis are getting old and stale. We need consistent playmakers at the WR position, not guys on the sidelines, guys who make cameo appearances now and then, or guys who are souped up versions of Legs Naane.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:20 AM

shut the fug and take your cry baby ass somewhere else. I hate that there always has to be somebody complain over everything. This is not something that should be complained about. We just got one of the best returners in the league. We aren't asking him to be the #1 receiver. Get over it


one of the best returners in the league... who had a worse KR avg than kealoha pilares last season. and a worse PR avg than joe adams. had four fumbles on 46 touches.

he just about had less receiving yards the past three seasons (384 on 33 catches) than louis murphy did in 2012 (336 on 25). so he offers nothing to the offense.

yeah wow so pumped for this signing bro. might as well cancel the season and give us the lombardi right now. so glad i'm not a blind homer.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 04:11 AM

With a round 1 or round 2 WR pick, LaFell will be our solid #3 WR.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:10 AM

Too many of you writing off Gettis. He had 500 yards and 3 TDs his rookie season with Clausen, Moore and Brian St Pierre throwing him the ball. I'm interested to see what he can do with Cam. I don't think he was ever in any doghouse last year, I think it was more of a precautionary thing with his knee and all. He should be ready to go at Training Camp this year.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 06:20 AM

I don't know if that's true.

1. He could have still not been right from his injury.

2. This coaching staff has shown that they don't always make correct judgement with the Depth chart.
Example: Leaguedoodoo starting over Lafell most of last year.

Legadoodoo....was there bc it was a new scheme and he had to line people up. It made sense. Even Smitty said Legatron had to keep him straight. He was an on field playcall instructor.


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