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Not really. If Gettleman feels that Kearse and Cole are good enough, then he'll forgo drafting a DT. Keep in mind, Dave is a tape guru and brilliant in-house evaluator. So our needs at NT weigh on how well they preformed in Gettleman's eyes.

Yes really. Cole hasn't played football in a year and a half. In my mind he is Jyles Tucker of this year. And it's way to soon to depend on Krease being anything but a rotational player. There is no way any GM worth his salt looks at this roster and not think DT is a serious need.

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Says you, but Rivera has been quite taken by improved play since returning from the practice squad. Like I said, if Getts is confident enough in Kearse and Cole, then don't count on a DT being selected in the first two rounds.

There is no way he and Rivera are that stupid. Rivera has already made this mistake in 2011 of not taking the DT position serious. He won't do that again.

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Says you, but Rivera has been quite taken by improved play since returning from the practice squad. Like I said, if Getts is confident enough in Kearse and Cole, then don't count on a DT being selected in the first two rounds.

I actually like Kearse. I wouldnt draft a NT with the first 2 picks with our other needs.

I think the job of a NT is not hard to find later in the draft or in FA. (holding the point of attack and generating a push)

NT and OG are not PP in my mind.

As we saw a huge improvement in our run D when we added Edwards.

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Once again, it all depends on how Gettleman views the situation. If he feels comfortable with the DTs he has at his disposal then we fans are just gonna have to accept his judgement.

I don't think he feels comfortable with the situation then. If he does then we have made a grave mistake with the GM hire. There is no way Rivera is putting his job in the hands of a guy who hasn't played in a year and a undrafted player that he cut and brought back.

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Are you psychic? If Getts refuses to draft a DT in the first two rounds, that won't make him stupid nor will it be a mistake on JR's part to hire him.

Up until recently, the Giants hadn't drafted DTs higher than the fourth round. They won both Superbowls without a highly touted prospect.

If Getts doesn't do anything else with the DT position. Then Rivera should pack his bags and put his house on the market.

Because that would be a true sign that he isn't Getts's coach and won't be getting any assistance from him.

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And the Giants drafted Marvin Austin 2 years ago and Joseph in the 1st round in the last few years. Plus they made FA signing for that position. And it wasn't guys who had been out of football for a year.

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Don't want. If we take wr in the 1st give me Cordarelle Patterson, or Tavon Austin. If we opt to go wr in the 2nd.....Deandre Hopkins or Justin Hunter.

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Man there are just so many better players we can get at 14 imo. I know building around Cam is what we're doing but there's not a single WR in this draft I'm in love with.

At 14, I'm in love with Allen. To me he's the complete package. Great height, speed, hands.

Second round, any of them. Williams, Hopkins, Hunter, Rogers, etc.

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That's absurd logic.

We have a crappy secondary and a limited receiver core too.

You're right but our limited WR corp was still able to be a top 5 scoring offense a year ago.

I think the secondary and DT should be address before WR.

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Please read.

I clearly stated that The Giants hadn't drafted a DT up until recently. New York has used free agency and late round draft picks to build depth at DT.

When did they sign a guy who had been out of football a year and a Half and expect him to be in the rotation?

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And our defense ranked in the top ten, point?

Our offense was top 5 for most of that year.

Our defense didn't move up the ranking until we play sorry teams at the end of the season.

So let's not play stupid here.

We both know that top 10 defense isn't on a solid foundation right now.

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If he beats out our squad of DTs, you're gonna have to deal with it. Cole, prior to his injury, was a very solid starter. So the probability of him being in the starting line up favors him as much as it does Davis (after three ACL tears).

OMG if he beats out FUA and Chandler he must be good.

Do you see how stupid that sounds?

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Actually, pure number sites like PFF had our defense ranked in top 15 for majority of the year. We even reached 8th at one point (during the Cowboys or Bears).

And if you're going to play that angle, why exactly was our offense ranked in the top 5 last year again? Ahh, because of ground game you say? That can't be right. It would mean our offense is on shaky ground too.

Since Cam our Offense has ranked in the top half of the league.

This Top 10 defense still gave up 38 to the saints 27 to KC and 22 to a Philly team playing with their whole 2nd team.

Really the only team we stopped were SD after knocking out their RB and The Raiders after knocking out their QB.

But again you be fooled by the smoke and Mirrors surge at the end of the season. I have faith that Getts's doesn't think like you.

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Smoke and Mirrors? I'd take my own advice if I were you. Without the rushing attack, our offense isn't a well-oiled machine. Case in point, 2012-13. Deny if you want but our offense didn't rank in the top ten this year.

Well, Gman doesn't think like you either. DT in NY hasn't been a top priority for years. They've loaded up on pass rushers, wide receivers, running backs and offensive linemen.

Again they just used 2 high picks on Austin and Joseph and they weren't paying Canty pennies.

So that is just a false statement. The Giants actual spent high picks and FA money in their DT's. No they didn't put a band aide over their DT position.

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