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#121 koolkatluke

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:19 PM

8-9 DTs????


I believe 8-9 DT in this draft will end up being solid 10 year starters.

#122 LinvilleGorge

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:26 PM

I believe 8-9 DT in this draft will end up being solid 10 year starters.


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Very few players are 10 year NFL starters. Very few.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:27 PM

I believe 8-9 DT in this draft will end up being solid 10 year starters.


I dont know man. You probably know something I dont, or either you're just really optimistic about this year's class of DTs.

Floyd, Star, Sheldon, Hankins, Short, Jesse, Sylvester, Brandon, Jon Jenkins, and Spence are probably the top 10 DT prospects right now depending what source you look at. Its hard to imagine all 10 of them or even 8 out of those 10 to go and be solid players for 10+years. Some of them might bust, and 1-3 sleepers will rise and give themselves a name as time goes by, but even with that it is still hard to think 8-9 DTs outta this draft will be solid players for that long.

Since you love stats, if you have time, go find me a Draft class in the past that produced 5-6 solid Dts for a good amount of years.

#124 Gin and Juice

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:27 PM

The way he is handling the contracts(which I feel is awesome) has me convinced we will be going after an LT in the first rd.! It will serve as leverage and insurance over forcing Gross' hand in taking a paycut!

And Dwill is as good as gone! These one year deals show he is thinking long term!

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:36 PM

Remember when Gentleman said you need scorers on your football team? WR seems to be the position we're likely choosing in the first.

He also said something about the trenches...

I have been out of the loop here lately, but is there any way we can get James Anderson back as well? I don't recall him signing elsewhere yet. Forgive me if I'm wrong.

Anything is possible... But I'd rather use the money to get Mr. Boothe here. Maybe if Gross takes a pay cut and we cut AE (and no I'm not one of those "CUT AE NAOW" guys but with Adams and Ginn here he's expendable) then bring James Anderson back

#126 koolkatluke

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:37 PM

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Very few players are 10 year NFL starters. Very few.


We're not talking about RB and Skill position players. Trench players last a lot longer then the avg.

And you also missed my point about depth in this draft. There could be 29 DT drafted in this draft then add in the DE's that will morph into DT from playing in (3-4) or getting older. And you can find 8-9 10 year vets not that crazy of a idea.

Now do you see what I'm saying?

#127 CPF4LIFE

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

Banking on getting a LT in the draft would seem kinda risky, there only 3 really good ones that would be reliable starters and they could all be gone by the time we pick. Even if we did draft one i would still keep Gross. It would be a improvement.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

Now do you see what I'm saying?


If you said 8-9 DTs that end up being "starters" in the NFL, that's one thing. But to claim 8-9 TEN YEAR STARTERS... that's insane. Very few guys start in the NFL for 10 years.

Hell, there's plenty of guys in the HOF who didn't start 10 years.

#129 koolkatluke

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

I dont know man. You probably know something I dont, or either you're just really optimistic about this year's class of DTs.

Floyd, Star, Sheldon, Hankins, Short, Jesse, Sylvester, Brandon, Jon Jenkins, and Spence are probably the top 10 DT prospects right now depending what source you look at. Its hard to imagine all 10 of them or even 8 out of those 10 to go and be solid players for 10+years. Some of them might bust, and 1-3 sleepers will rise and give themselves a name as time goes by, but even with that it is still hard to think 8-9 DTs outta this draft will be solid players for that long.

Since you love stats, if you have time, go find me a Draft class in the past that produced 5-6 solid Dts for a good amount of years.



2010 has Suh, McCoy, Aluah, Williams and Odrick just in the 1st round. And if we go thru the whole draft
2nd round Lamarr Houston, Linval Joseph, Terrence Cody

3rd round Corey Peters, Geno Atkins,

5th round Cam Thomas

Thats 11 player with a chances.

#130 carolina-chuck

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:44 PM

2010 has Suh, McCoy, Aluah, Williams and Odrick just in the 1st round.


I give you Suh, McCoy, and Dan.
Tyson is close to being a bust, and Odrick is a DE/OLB. Sorry

#131 Bwood

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:44 PM

Do you work with bwood?


Where do you think I work?

Once again my name coming up in conversations I'm not even involved in lol.

#132 Gin and Juice

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:45 PM

Banking on getting a LT in the draft would seem kinda risky, there only 3 really good ones that would be reliable starters and they could all be gone by the time we pick. Even if we did draft one i would still keep Gross. It would be a improvement.


I wouldn't want to let Gross walk, however, Gman needs to have plan B in place when he goes demanding Gross takes a 60% or more pay cut

#133 carolina-chuck

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:45 PM

If you said 8-9 DTs that end up being "starters" in the NFL, that's one thing. But to claim 8-9 TEN YEAR STARTERS... that's insane. Very few guys start in the NFL for 10 years.

Hell, there's plenty of guys in the HOF who didn't start 10 years.


And don't forget to mentioned that the average years for a player in the NFL is 4years only.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:47 PM

Where do you think I work?

Once again my name coming up in conversations I'm not even involved in lol.

lol calm down bro. I actually like you and enjoy your trolling, I'm just giving you poo.

#135 carolina-chuck

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:48 PM

Banking on getting a LT in the draft would seem kinda risky, there only 3 really good ones that would be reliable starters and they could all be gone by the time we pick. Even if we did draft one i would still keep Gross. It would be a improvement.


I think Lane Johnson could be there at 14. Depending on what SD want to do.

Even with Johnson there, I'd would hate to take him there with our needs elsewhere. Only way I would be happy is if we cut Gross to create cap space.


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