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Man we can use past players all day to justify any current player.

You either like a prospect or you don't.

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The last situation that this really came up in was a while back, Guy was in school for three years but only saw a lot of playing time in year 3 because he switched from QB to WR was way back in 1993 when Curtis Conway was selected 7th overall based on talent and potential not production.

He went on to play in the NFL for 12 years scoring over 50 total touchdowns. He was even less polished then Patterson and he did pretty fine. That's really the only situation minus Williamson that I can find for a player with as little playing time as Patterson does.

Patterson also blew it up in Juco as well, so he's got a bit more experience under his belt and has shown way more flashes then any of the past examples that I can find.

Conway Really??? That's the best you can come up with??

Well lets go ahead and bust that bubble for you.

Conway never lived up to being the 7th pick in the draft.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/388/curtis-conway

He had more season with less then 500 yards receiving then he did 1,000 yard.

Just by comaprison

Steve Smith who has played 12 season

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/2622/steve-smith

Has 7 1,000 yard season 28 more TD rec. and 3,232 more yards.

Now if that's what you want out of a top 15 pick then have at it.

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CarpanFan did you see path to the draft and Mayock's risk reward segment??

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CarpanFan did you see path to the draft and Mayock's risk reward segment??

Yea, Mayock has repeatedly said that Patterson was a top 10 player that wouldn't go in the top 10 but around the 17-20 mark.

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Yea, Mayock has repeatedly said that Patterson was a top 10 player that wouldn't go in the top 10 but around the 17-20 mark.

What about the other issues he mention?? And the fact he is on a risk reward segment should make you nervous as well.

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The Conway thing makes me not want Patterson even more. Wow that's the best player you can come up with.

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What about the other issues he mention?? And the fact he is on a risk reward segment should make you nervous as well.

Not really, every player in the draft is Risk vs Reward. All at the same rate as well, you just can't tell what's going to happen with a player. There's been plenty of sure things that have been bust in the NFL and just as many players who weren't expected to do anything becoming pro bowl players.

A player being named on a risk - reward segment doesn't bother me at all.

I'm not even saying he'd be the only guy I'd look at with the 14th pick, I just Like the combination of Size, speed, agility, vision and the high potential he has. He's like a taller Tavon Austin, just explosive after the catch or with the ball in his hands. He just hasn't had the playing time to polish his fundamentals like Austin has. He's got a higher upside though then Austin just because of his size and arm length.

If you note you'll see Mayock call Patterson the most explosive player in the draft, then mention Tavon Austin. It's pretty crazy that you can compare a 6-2, 217 pound WR to a 5-9, 175 pound WR on explosiveness and it be questionable on which one has more pop.

That's freakish athletic ability at Patterson's size.

Sometimes you've got to take chances to hit the lotto and the Panther's have been playing it safe the last decade. Last time they took a big gamble it payed off with Newton.

That Newton pick certainly looks good right now doesn't it?

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The Conway thing makes me not want Patterson even more. Wow that's the best player you can come up with.

it's really the only comparable situation rawness wise that I could find, there might be other examples though.

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Not really, every player in the draft is Risk vs Reward. All at the same rate as well, you just can't tell what's going to happen with a player. There's been plenty of sure things that have been bust in the NFL and just as many players who weren't expected to do anything becoming pro bowl players.

A player being named on a risk - reward segment doesn't bother me at all.

I'm not even saying he'd be the only guy I'd look at with the 14th pick, I just Like the combination of Size, speed, agility, vision and the high potential he has. He's like a taller Tavon Austin, just explosive after the catch or with the ball in his hands. He just hasn't had the playing time to polish his fundamentals like Austin has. He's got a higher upside though then Austin just because of his size and arm length.

If you note you'll see Mayock call Patterson the most explosive player in the draft, then mention Tavon Austin. It's pretty crazy that you can compare a 6-2, 217 pound WR to a 5-9, 175 pound WR on explosiveness and it be questionable on which one has more pop.

That's freakish athletic ability at Patterson's size.

Sometimes you've got to take chances to hit the lotto and the Panther's have been playing it safe the last decade. Last time they took a big gamble it payed off with Newton.

That Newton pick certainly looks good right now doesn't it?

Yeah I don't think Ron wants to gamble with his job or Gettle wants to gamble with his 1st pick in his 1st year as a GM in a 40 year career in football. Just saying a lot is riding for them to take that kind of gamble.

Allen is the safer and smarter pick if they go WR in the 1st round and there are 2nd round wr with pretty good upside as well.

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Yeah I don't think Ron wants to gamble with his job or Gettle wants to gamble with his 1st pick in his 1st year as a GM in a 40 year career in football. Just saying a lot is riding for them to take that kind of gamble.

Allen is the safer and smarter pick if they go WR in the 1st round and there are 2nd round wr with pretty good upside as well.

How is Allen a safer bet? He might not be able to stay on the field. Rather take a raw prospect then a hurt one

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How is Allen a safer bet? He might not be able to stay on the field. Rather take a raw prospect then a hurt one

Small injury history.

He is more polished very good in the open field as well. Has bigger hands. And a history of production.

So yes safer pick.

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Allen is probably the safest pick in the draft WR wise, but what you see with him is what you get. The injury issue I think checked out fine, so that's not a huge concern for him. He's a High floor - lower ceiling type of player.

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