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#101 Kral

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:40 AM

In your eyes, I am unrighteous because I have worked hard and achieved financial success.


No not really I just like reading your hateful diatribe.

I really don't give a fug dude.

Oh you may want to pull that log from your eye.

In reality I'm happy for you. In the tinderbox... well you are the one claiming to be a follower of Jesus Christ.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:40 AM

damn libs with their personal attacks again

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:40 AM

How many times does Jesus have to say give everything you have away for Christians to actually think that he meant it. If that isn't good enough. Look at Jesus, was he a rich man with a fancy home, fancy clothes, eating and drinking fancy foods, entertaining himself to death? No. He had nothing and ran around telling everyone the Kingdom is coming soon. I hear/heard Christains all the time saying they want to be like Christ and memic him yet their lives look nothing like His did.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:56 AM

Exactly my point.....you cannot interpret the Bible literally. It has to be taken in context and understood that much of it is written in parable form. Basic context....be a good person.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:57 AM

In your eyes, I am unrighteous because I have worked hard and achieved financial success.

In my eyes, you are an idiot....because both of your parents were idiots. Not your fault, you did not chose the shallow gene pool from which you were hatched.


Hard work = financial success

Remember that, kids.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:00 AM

Hard work = financial success

Remember that, kids.


Can I work hard and not achieve financial success? Can I only work a little and have financial success? I'm an idiot so if you could tell me that would really help.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:05 AM

Fwiw, Joseph of Arimethea was rich and Jesus seemed to be perfectly ok with him. So maybe jesus didn't have a problem with all rich people, just the stingy ones. :)

Btw, the temple money changers were not really like the IRS. They were more like stock traders and bankers in todays terminology, and I believe Jesus's main issue was them doing it in the temple.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:09 AM

Fwiw, Joseph of Arimethea was rich and Jesus seemed to be perfectly ok with him. So maybe jesus didn't have a problem with all rich people, just the stingy ones. :)


Of course not he was required for the prophecy in Isaiah whatever whatever.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:17 AM

How many times does Jesus have to say give everything you have away for Christians to actually think that he meant it. If that isn't good enough. Look at Jesus, was he a rich man with a fancy home, fancy clothes, eating and drinking fancy foods, entertaining himself to death? No. He had nothing and ran around telling everyone the Kingdom is coming soon. I hear/heard Christains all the time saying they want to be like Christ and memic him yet their lives look nothing like His did.


So would this mean you are a fan of Jesus? But not some of the hypocritical followers?

I agree with you,

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:17 AM

Seems like you don't understand it. You may want to do some study on the subject.

A rich person has a more difficult time getting into heaven because he is not doing what was instructed.... ie loving thy neighbor and helping the poor. If you have accumulated wealth while others in your community live in poverty, you have failed as a Christian.

(prediction: this is not a desirable smorgasbord item, lets interpret around it)


The entire gist of your statement can be summed up in the final sentence.

"you have failed as a christian"

Someone's wealth around you has absolutely nothing to do with your success or failure as a christian. Does it mean you help your neighbour? Absolutely. The reason Jesus tested so many with money during his time was to test what they felt was most important to them (aka idolotry wrt to money). Give away all your money and FOLLOW ME. It had nothing to do with who he gave to. He could've taken all his posessions and put them in a pile and set it afire. Had nothing to do with the point he was trying to make. The point he was trying to make was that he wasn't dedicated to helping save people's lives through salvation. He chose to continue his life and go back to his riches and holdings.

Good deeds does not make a christian.


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