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Posted 28 March 2013 - 06:44 PM

I'm seeing tayvon being mocked higher than 14 on alot of mocks at this point. not even sure he will be around with the bucs needing a wr as well. That said this arguement is one of the worst of the summer. Adams might not even be on the team next year,comparing him to austin is awful. This guy has reggie bush like quickness out of his cuts and adams look horrible out of his breaks. I'm in on the take tayvon at 14 train.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:41 PM

T. Austin < or = J. Adams



That's some funny math right there.

If this were back in the day, the OP would get his knuckles popped with a wooden ruler.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:30 AM

^^^^^^^^^ I am glad its not the old days, cause I would hate to have to whip ass for being popped because of a post on an internet message board dumbshit.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:38 AM

I haven't read past page 3, but I just wanted to point out that ProSource made a comment about Tavon's 72 carries...

This alone describes how clueless you are about Tavon Austin. He's a CONVERTED RB. Pointing out his seemingly high carries for a WR to justify your argument when he had some SOLID WR numbers (better than anything Smitty did in college (not comparing the two, mind you... just an example)) is nothing more than a confirmation bias.

Returns not included, over the 4 year college career that Austin had, he averaged almost 11 yards whenever he touched the ball. He posted over 100 catches and 1200 yards receiving each of his last two years. This is also in an offense that had the pieces that are similar to what the Panthers offense has.

Austin wasn't even their main guy... the offense was pretty balanced over his career.

If you don't want an offensive weapon for your offense... go ahead and overlook him...

If you want an offensive weapon, there is a proven one for the taking in this draft.


I talked about his 72 carries to support my argument of why we don't need this cat. I know he is a converted RB and I know he should not get carries out of our backfield. We need a big #1 reciever, not a hybrid slot guy who our OC needs to gimmick up the offense for him to be effective. The draft is full of midgets with speed.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:40 AM

Even tho i think Austin is gonna be a good player, i still scratch my head at how people think he is gonna be some unstoppable weapon in the NFL.I mean this is Pro football, there are ways to take anybody out of a game unless they player is just so physically and athletically gifted that they are hard to stop. And Austin is lacking in the physical department and he wont dominate off his speed. I guarantee it.

And then there are things like this that some how go unoticed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbNvW-2dx1w

Vaccaro was able to cover Austin pretty well in that game and he is not even that fast and overrated to some people. But i will say again, its not that i dont think Austin is gonna be great player its just that i dont think he will dominate in the ways people keep claiming he will and i think we need some thing different than what he offers at a 14th pick overall. Thats all.


That's a joke, really? You show a video of Austin getting a 5-6+ yard gain, and call that being shut down? That's exactly how elite he is, I'll take a 5-6 yard gain on and end around any day. Especially since the guy tackling him is one of the top Safety's in the draft.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:40 AM

I talked about his 72 carries to support my argument of why we don't need this cat. I know he is a converted RB and I know he should not get carries out of our backfield. We need a big #1 reciever, not a hybrid slot guy who our OC needs to gimmick up the offense for him to be effective. The draft is full of midgets with speed.


Its not his speed more so his agility and vision.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:41 AM

^^^^^^^^^ I am glad its not the old days, cause I would hate to have to whip ass for being popped because of a post on an internet message board dumbshit.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:19 AM

^^^^^^^^^ I am glad its not the old days, cause I would hate to have to whip ass for being popped because of a post on an internet message board dumbshit.


Well, now that you mention it, you'd have to whip your own ass for posting the most dumb poo ever.


Stop taking a benign statement and going all tough Internet Guy.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:40 AM

Tavon Austin is pretty amazing but I don't see how you guys think he's going to be so great for us. We need a future #1 WR and in my personal opinion we need one now. Austin is 5"8, and before you guys say Steve Smith, just realize that there has literally never been a player like Steve Smith. We can't assume that Austin is going to be able to play like him, to be able to beat double teams and carry an offense. We need a guy with great size and speed who you can be a reliable target, a redzone threat, and a deep threat.

We also just signed Ted Ginn. I think the better draft would be to take Richardson in the 1st and Justin Hunter in the 2nd.
Though I do really like Patterson I share the doubts people have for him.


He does not have to be our future number 1 WR to be great for us.He is a weapon, if he gets over 1000 yards who care if he is a number 1 wr or rb or returner.The guy just works great with a little space ....that is all it is.Other teams will have to account for him.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:28 AM

Well, now that you mention it, you'd have to whip your own ass for posting the most dumb poo ever.


Stop taking a benign statement and going all tough Internet Guy.


Says the guy who talked about physicality first with his tap on the wrist bullshit. Explain your point with evidence next time and not a cowardly internet moronic attempt to be derogatory hypocrite. I would like to repeat dumbshit for the cheap seats.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:17 PM

Says the guy who talked about physicality first with his tap on the wrist bullshit. Explain your point with evidence next time and not a cowardly internet moronic attempt to be derogatory hypocrite. I would like to repeat dumbshit for the cheap seats.


What's cowardly is putting on some internet tough guy act because someone disagrees with your basic premise. Adams does not equal Austin, nor is anyone with credibility claiming such an ill-advised comparison. Their stats, particularly in their senior year, are not equal. Their rushing ability is worlds apart. Their TD totals aren't equal. Their return stats are not equal (though Adams had a slightly higher PR avg.). Even if they were, Adams can't hold onto the rock. Then when you compare their speed---combine or on the field---Austin obviously has another gear. Throw in explosiveness, dynamic ability, and just overall value to their respective offenses at a collegiate level, there really is no comparison.

http://www.sports-re...oe-adams-1.html
http://www.sports-re...n-austin-1.html

In regards to your dumbshit comment, dumbass, you want to escalate until we get banned? Nuns popping kids' knuckles back in the day hardly equates to a level of physicality that warrants my comments to even be considered as a threat. I ain't no little meek child that will put up with your internet bravado, tough guy bullshit.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:30 PM

What's cowardly is putting on some internet tough guy act because someone disagrees with your basic premise. Adams does not equal Austin, nor is anyone with credibility claiming such an ill-advised comparison. Their stats, particularly in their senior year, are not equal. Their rushing ability is worlds apart. Their TD totals aren't equal. Their return stats are not equal (though Adams had a slightly higher PR avg.). Even if they were, Adams can't hold onto the rock. Then when you compare their speed---combine or on the field---Austin obviously has another gear. Throw in explosiveness, dynamic ability, and just overall value to their respective offenses at a collegiate level, there really is no comparison.

http://www.sports-re...oe-adams-1.html
http://www.sports-re...n-austin-1.html

In regards to your dumbshit comment, dumbass, you want to escalate until we get banned? Nuns popping kids' knuckles back in the day hardly equates to a level of physicality that warrants my comments to even be considered as a threat. I ain't no little meek child that will put up with your internet bravado, tough guy bullshit.


I don"t want to get banned. Instead, let's get cerebral!

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:55 PM

Regardless of how he compares, we aren't taking him at 14.

i don't think you can definitively say that.

he is most definitely a possibility there, one of quite a few from a few different positions. the interest is there for sure.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 01:13 PM

I think he'd be more likely in a trade down situation. You are correct, I just couldn't find anyone suggesting he would be taken that early....until I looked a little harder

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 01:45 PM

I think he'd be more likely in a trade down situation. You are correct, I just couldn't find anyone suggesting he would be taken that early....until I looked a little harder


And not only is he moving up the draft boards, but now there is talk that the 49ers, Vikings, and possibly even the Patriots moving up to take him. I will give him his due: he is the talk of the 2013 NFL draft. Makes me wonder even more if we are giving him serious consideration. But, if we can pick up a first and that third round pick, then we may pull the trigger if Austin is still on the board.

I never thought that Austin might have to fall to us, but perhaps the true value is there amidst all the smoke(screens).


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