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This year will tell if Rivera is a horrible coach or not.

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If we do not atleast go 500 Rivera is a horrible coach. G has put him in a good position to do okay this year. If our season is lost again after week 7 its over for him.
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Less than a winning record this year is absolutely unacceptable. It's cut and dry playoffs for this organization.

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i don't think he has a choice.

10 wins or playoffs or he's fired. it's really that simple. 2014 could end up being pretty close to a clean slate on the coaching staff and players on the team.

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agreed we have to have a winning season with 10 or more wins!!
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Playoffs or bust. And he knows it.

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Post season only. No option

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[b][color=#3399ff]Gettleman said when he was hired that his job was to make everyone better. Even though I was for replacing Rivera this year, I am now hoping that he has learned from his mistakes and that Gettleman can help him even more. I would be very happy if Rivera succeeds here. He seems like a nice guy and someone who works hard. It would be great if Gettleman was just what he needed. (Certainly Hurney was no help) On the positive side...his players play for him and do not quit. Am hoping his flaw last year was trusting Chud too much and giving him too much control. Sometimes the best learning comes through mistakes. You can bet he and Gettleman the grinder have reviewed a lot of film together. Gettleman could be the best thing that ever happened to Rivera. I am hoping so. [/color][/b]
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[quote name='SuperJTheGreat' timestamp='1364429107' post='2178681']
If we do not atleast go 500 Rivera is a horrible coach. G has put him in a good position to do okay this year. If our season is lost again after week 7 its over for him.
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G's magnificent offseason is being dramatically overblown....

We still have holes all over this roster and an oddly built offense around Cam

G is setting the table to burn the mofo down after this year...just like Gantt called. Rivera will be playing from a hole...just like the last 2 seasons. Rivera and Cam have come close to overcoming it the last 2 seasons....but no GM has put Rivera in an easy to win position
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[quote name='CRA' timestamp='1364431741' post='2178742']
G's magnificent offseason is being dramatically overblown....

We still have holes all over this roster and an oddly built offense around Cam

G is setting the table to burn the mofo down after this year...just like Gantt called. Rivera will be playing from a hole...just like the last 2 seasons. Rivera and Cam have come close to overcoming it the last 2 seasons....but no GM has put Rivera in an easy to win position
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That is the biggest bullshit I have read this entire offseason...I'm not gonna argue any further than that, because i know you like to have pages and pages of discussion. Pure bullshit.
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If we go 8-8 or 9-7, we'll at least have confirmation that Rivera is mediocre. Playoffs or a new head coach.

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Interesting that the FA period has been almost all Defense....Rivera's calling card, and ultimately his strength. I'm sure he and Gettleman have spent loads of time talking about what needs to happen on that side of the ball....a lot of new faces to work with over there already. If Rivera can work hard on the game day side of the HC gig, he'll be fine. I already think his leadership, and talent with the X's and O's are right where they need to be. Get the weapons upgraded on offense? This team will be a brand new product this year.
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Playoffs Or Bust The Team Has Underachieved For Too Long.

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guess it's going to be a new head coach. i'm with gantt on this one. and you're delusional if you think this was a spectacular offseason. we added depth with veterans as compared to sixth round draft picks.

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Well considering all of our FAs besides dwan are on 1 year deals and the report that we were only offering 1 year deals to all our assistant coaching candidates I would say that's a pretty obvious statement there OP

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feldman9000 agreeing with you further illustrates my point.

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[quote name='CRA' timestamp='1364431741' post='2178742']
G's magnificent offseason is being dramatically overblown....

We still have holes all over this roster and an oddly built offense around Cam

G is setting the table to burn the mofo down after this year...just like Gantt called. Rivera will be playing from a hole...just like the last 2 seasons. Rivera and Cam have come close to overcoming it the last 2 seasons....but no GM has put Rivera in an easy to win position
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Gettleman is setting the table to burn the mofo down? Are you already stuck on your new hang-up? That Gettleman is a dinosaur that refuses to see the supposed new era of offense in the NFL?

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[quote name='Gabeking' timestamp='1364432364' post='2178751']
Well considering all of our FAs besides dwan are on 1 year deals and the report that we were
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[color=#3399FF][b]The 1 year deals reportedly are a league wide thing. The cap has influenced that. Seems like it is not as not as defining here as it sounds.[/b][/color]

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I somewhat agree. My caveat is that I will more look at if he improved as a head coach. His main (glaring) weakness is game management/situational football. Far too many times he's made head scratching moves. He was either far too conservative and then sometime unnecessarily aggressive. Some personnel moves have been questionable as well.

He's a very good defensive coach though and I really value that, as I'm sure Gettleman and JR.

If this team stays healthy for the most part and we don't get to at least .500 and his decision making has not improved, then I'm all for firing him.

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Rivera ain't going anywhere. You all should stop wasting time and energy playing that garbage.

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[quote name='ladypanther' timestamp='1364432576' post='2178755']


[color=#3399FF][b]The 1 year deals reportedly are a league wide thing. The cap has influenced that. Seems like it is not as not as defining here as it sounds.[/b][/color]
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I know but its the assistant coaching 1 year offers that really give the hint though IMO

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[quote name='Gabeking' timestamp='1364433509' post='2178778']
I know but its the assistant coaching 1 year offers that really give the hint though IMO
[/quote]Well, obviously he's on the short leash with a new GM and only two years left on the contract. Why would you sign assistants to longer deals if they may not be welcome if Rivera craps the bed?

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[quote name='ButWhysTheRumGone' timestamp='1364431973' post='2178744']
That is the biggest bullshit I have read this entire offseason...I'm not gonna argue any further than that, because i know you like to have pages and pages of discussion. Pure bullshit.
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While cap space limited what we could do, unless I'm missing something the only sure upgrade we have from last season is Ginn. I don't agree that Gettleman is preparing to burn it down, but I don't see how Rivera is in a much better position than he was last season from a roster standpoint.

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Don't forget, HC's and 1st rd QB's are usually tied together. If we change regimes we may be looking at more than just a new coach. Food for thought.

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[quote name='ButWhysTheRumGone' timestamp='1364431973' post='2178744']


That is the biggest bullshit I have read this entire offseason...I'm not gonna argue any further than that, because i know you like to have pages and pages of discussion. Pure bullshit.
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What part?

The part where the GM will have a roster that he can easily clean house of after this year? Cam, Luke, Kalil, Johnson, Olsen....everyone else could be parted with....GM inherited Ron on a one year basis. Cam probably wouldn't be safe though. But a 180 degree roster overhaul is something the GM is also leaving open

Or that Rivera has been working from a hole with his stud QB since arriving? He has been running a modern offense with Fox left overs and holes all over his D.....

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I think everyone knows that this is his last chance to prove he's a HC in the NFL.
Playoffs or bust. Chico better go 2-2 in his first month or he's a goner.

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