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SuperJTheGreat

This year will tell if Rivera is a horrible coach or not.

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I know but its the assistant coaching 1 year offers that really give the hint though IMO

Well, obviously he's on the short leash with a new GM and only two years left on the contract. Why would you sign assistants to longer deals if they may not be welcome if Rivera craps the bed?

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That is the biggest bullshit I have read this entire offseason...I'm not gonna argue any further than that, because i know you like to have pages and pages of discussion. Pure bullshit.

While cap space limited what we could do, unless I'm missing something the only sure upgrade we have from last season is Ginn. I don't agree that Gettleman is preparing to burn it down, but I don't see how Rivera is in a much better position than he was last season from a roster standpoint.

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Don't forget, HC's and 1st rd QB's are usually tied together. If we change regimes we may be looking at more than just a new coach. Food for thought.

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That is the biggest bullshit I have read this entire offseason...I'm not gonna argue any further than that, because i know you like to have pages and pages of discussion. Pure bullshit.

What part?

The part where the GM will have a roster that he can easily clean house of after this year? Cam, Luke, Kalil, Johnson, Olsen....everyone else could be parted with....GM inherited Ron on a one year basis. Cam probably wouldn't be safe though. But a 180 degree roster overhaul is something the GM is also leaving open

Or that Rivera has been working from a hole with his stud QB since arriving? He has been running a modern offense with Fox left overs and holes all over his D.....

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I think everyone knows that this is his last chance to prove he's a HC in the NFL.

Playoffs or bust. Chico better go 2-2 in his first month or he's a goner.

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While cap space limited what we could do, unless I'm missing something the only sure upgrade we have from last season is Ginn. I don't agree that Gettleman is preparing to burn it down, but I don't see how Rivera is in a much better position than he was last season from a roster standpoint.

Ron isn't.

The new GM would be a fool to go all in for Rivera. He didn't hire him and easily could fire him next year....all in on Ron would be a bigger mess to dig out of.

I am not saying he would sabotage Rivera but just be cautious with how he helps him.

Rivera is a good coach....a shame he hasn't been given better defensive talent. Ron can win with D and Cam....he is that good of a defensive coach. But he calls the right stuff and we lose bc of weak D talent

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What part?

The part where the GM will have a roster that he can easily clean house of after this year? Cam, Luke, Kalil, Johnson, Olsen....everyone else could be parted with....GM inherited Ron on a one year basis. Cam probably wouldn't be safe though. But a 180 degree roster overhaul is something the GM is also leaving open

Or that Rivera has been working from a hole with his stud QB since arriving? He has been running a modern offense with Fox left overs and holes all over his D.....

Damn, I was going to respond to your post, but when I hit "quote" it became something almost completely different....

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Well, obviously he's on the short leash with a new GM and only two years left on the contract. Why would you sign assistants to longer deals if they may not be welcome if Rivera craps the bed?

That's my point

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What part?

The part where the GM will have a roster that he can easily clean house of after this year? Cam, Luke, Kalil, Johnson, Olsen....everyone else could be parted with....GM inherited Ron on a one year basis. Cam probably wouldn't be safe though. But a 180 degree roster overhaul is something the GM is also leaving open

Or that Rivera has been working from a hole with his stud QB since arriving? He has been running a modern offense with Fox left overs and holes all over his D.....

You are implying things that are grossly ficticious:

1. That our new GM and bona fide "straight shooter" is not going to give Ron the proper weapons, within our budget, to win now. He just got his dream job, is he going to half ass it or not go all in?

2. The one year deals are a league-wide phenomenom. This has everything to do with the flat cap and our personal cap situation. He signed Dwan and Blackburn to 2 year contracts. In Dwan's case could he have not just said "screw it" we'll sign someone else. No he knew we had to sign Dwan to be successful THIS year, so he signed him, a 32 year old, to a 2 year deal. With what you were implying, he would have never done this.

I agree Rivera has been working from a hole with the Hurney mess, but to claim Gettleman is setting himself up so that he can easily overhaul the roster is not interpreting the facts correctly.

It's pretty much just a loser mentality, something that would be completely opposite of what Gettleman is all about.

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