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#16 panther4life

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:47 PM

Gettlejuice gets the nod over Hurndawg because he is an actual football talent evaluator and has years of scouting experience whereas Hurney was just a sportswriter who thought he could be a GM


I agree Gettleman's resume smokes Hunrney's but his limited actions so far are not the night and day difference many are proclaiming it go be.

He's his own man so he surely will be different and hopefully better in every regard than Hurney but it's not proven yet is all I am saying.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:49 PM

I agree Gettleman's resume smokes Hunrney's but his limited actions so far are not the night and day difference many are proclaiming it go be.

He's his own man so he surely will be different and hopefully better in every regard than Hurney but it's not proven yet is all I am saying.


I think we'll see if Gettleman separates himself from Hurney or not come draft time. That is when his scouting background should show over Hurney's

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:53 PM

Great thread OP, and I agree with you about Gettleman somewhat. I'm going to wait to see how some of these pieces workout on the field, and some of the moves next offseason before I crown Gettleman.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:54 PM

Hurney, is that you?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:54 PM

Very good posting.
Most fans won't agree with any of it, out of their blind hatred for hurney.
They all did the same with fox too.

Hurney was one of the best at getting under the cap with room to sign key free agents.

They ONLY difference i see, is that Gettleman is a football guy. Which is a huge plus for him, as he's going to have his own opinion (a good one knowing his track record), on players other than what the scouts are telling him.



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:59 PM

I agree Gettleman's resume smokes Hunrney's but his limited actions so far are not the night and day difference many are proclaiming it go be.

He's his own man so he surely will be different and hopefully better in every regard than Hurney but it's not proven yet is all I am saying.


What he has proven so far is that he places proper value on players, something Hurney has never done. That in and of itself makes him far superior to Hurney. While the players he has signed have to "prove" themselves, he has done a masterful job thus far in my opinion.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:59 PM

Are you really comparing Hurney to a top tier in-house evaluator and tape guru who has six trips to the Superbowl and three Lombardi trophies under his belt with off-season moves? Holy ****.

Get back to me when Gettleman has actual room to work with. This is a poorly constructed argument if I ever saw one. Yes, Hurney signed Dwan, Nakamura and Tolbert but he also placed us in Cap hell (outrageous contracts) and drafted duds beyond the first round.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:59 PM

reminds me of the old P4L thread about how Hurney was such a great GM and we couldn't possibly find anyone better.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:00 PM

lol here you go

http://www.carolinah...ull-reconsider/

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:03 PM

Some of you guys are missing the point of the thread. I love the Gettleman hire. I have high hopes that he will lead us to the promised land and I think Acorsi pointed JR in the direction with Getteman.

That being said I choose not to prematurely mentally ejaculate over it this soon.

It's okay to be excited but some of you act like a girl who had her heart broken from an abusive relationship and just because the new hasn't punched you yet after first date you think he's Prince Charming.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:04 PM

take some delicious frosted corn flakes, put them in a huge bowl, whip it out and piss all over them. lol

its too early for this....

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:27 PM

The main difference is that you see bargin free agents that come in with at least one or two great skills that are relevant to their position at a relevant cost. Ginn would have been signed for 3 million under Hurnery's pattern.

Ginn, far from perfect is elite speed and top 5 returner.

DJ Moore is a ball hawk and can offer great depth in zone cvg.

SS Mitchell has good speed size and hits well with actual film of his play..he is caught behind Tyvon Branch. Nakamura was a warm body who got quite a contract actually..crazy.

Needs are being met not signings of HBs at premium prices, Kickers like Mare getting a premium contract, Nakamura who you could just scout in his Madden attributes to know he offered very little(joke)

I will reserve a grade till I see a whole offseason but so far the trend is good.





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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:31 PM

What he has proven so far is that he places proper value on players, something Hurney has never done. That in and of itself makes him far superior to Hurney. While the players he has signed have to "prove" themselves, he has done a masterful job thus far in my opinion.


His Value on every free agent we re-signed this year is the same value Hurney put on them. Look it up.(same contract values or less when Hurney was here).

The other teams outside free agents, I have high hopes for because Gettleman's resume speaks for itself in terms of experience and being a part of highly successful teams. However is it not just a tad premature at this point to say he's done a masterful job on players that have never even been to a mini camp with us yet?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:37 PM

lol you're comparing Munnerlyn's new contract as an UFA to his rookie 7th round contract hahahaha ohhh I just... I can't

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:38 PM

The main difference is that you see bargin free agents that come in with at least one or two great skills that are relevant to their position at a relevant cost. Ginn would have been signed for 3 million under Hurnery's pattern.

Ginn, far from perfect is elite speed and top 5 returner.

DJ Moore is a ball hawk and can offer great depth in zone cvg.

SS Mitchell has good speed size and hits well with actual film of his play..he is caught behind Tyvon Branch. Nakamura was a warm body who got quite a contract actually..crazy.

Needs are being met not signings of HBs at premium prices, Kickers like Mare getting a premium contract, Nakamura who you could just scout in his Madden attributes to know he offered very little(joke)

I will reserve a grade till I see a whole offseason but so far the trend is good.


Excellent post. I guess one place where I differ from the masses is Hurney get's a huge pass on the 2009-11 free agency period from me becuase of JR. (He's still to blame for the Everette Brown,Armanti Edwards, Terrell Mcclain,and Clausen picks).


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