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Inconvenient Truth GM Edition(Hurney vs Gettleman)


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#11 panther4life

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:26 PM

Did you guys know we were over the cap in 2012 too. Yep 3 million less than we were this year but Hurney magically still found a way to add Dwan Edwards, Mike Tolbert,Nakumara(very comparable signing to Mitchell), Mike pollack, kenny onatulu and others. Only cut he had to make to accompish this was Wharton.


Like I laid out in the op the cuts and restructures he made were nothing we had not seen before and were relative no brainers that many on this board suggested would be done well before we even hired Gettleman.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:30 PM

The fact that he waited for the market to settle prices down on players and got players like gross to take a paycut/restructure instead of giving unproven guys ridiculous contracs.


Sort of like Hurney did with Tolbert last year? He was actually a player who could have gotten more money somewhere else. Nobody Gettleman has signed appears to have been able to get more money somewhere else.

Again I am not knocking the guy but I am knocking those who want to crown him king already. I already stated in the op I liked what he's done so far, just not surprised by any of it.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:35 PM

Ok Gettleman brought in a guy who makes our return game relevant again. He played hardball with Munnerlyn and owned him. He brought in guys for pennies who have ability and who will help balance out our roster. I mean do you not realize the cap situation? Go try boxing with one hand tied behind your back and tell me how it goes.

I addressed this in the OP. Munnerlyn was offered a 3 year 5 million dollar deal by Gettleman. For whatever reason Captain scoffed at it and tested the market. By the time he came back to us we had already replaced him with D.J. Moore. So therefore Gettleman backed his offer down.

You guys act like Hurney would have played it any different but can't name me 1 time he let a nickel corner bully him around.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:38 PM

Gettleman has a leg up because of his ability to navigate a situation he didn't create. He had it dropped in his plate. On a short schedule he came in evaluated our roster studied our contracts and still managed to scout free agents and I'm just assuming here, he is prepared for the draft. These "names" that we brought in are light years ahead of what hurney looked for.

Hurneys downfall was that he was retained to long and his wounds were allowed to fester. Gettleman immediately gets the nod because he's new. He has improved his stock by doing things this offseason most of us thought were not possible.


First of all Rob Rogers the cap guy who at the very least assisted in setting these contracts up helped Gettleman navigate them. Fans on this message board called the moves that he made in advance, because they were no brainers.

How can you say these names he brought in are light years ahead of what Hurney looked for??

I agree with your bolded part.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:42 PM

Gettlejuice gets the nod over Hurndawg because he is an actual football talent evaluator and has years of scouting experience whereas Hurney was just a sportswriter who thought he could be a GM

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:47 PM

Gettlejuice gets the nod over Hurndawg because he is an actual football talent evaluator and has years of scouting experience whereas Hurney was just a sportswriter who thought he could be a GM


I agree Gettleman's resume smokes Hunrney's but his limited actions so far are not the night and day difference many are proclaiming it go be.

He's his own man so he surely will be different and hopefully better in every regard than Hurney but it's not proven yet is all I am saying.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:49 PM

I agree Gettleman's resume smokes Hunrney's but his limited actions so far are not the night and day difference many are proclaiming it go be.

He's his own man so he surely will be different and hopefully better in every regard than Hurney but it's not proven yet is all I am saying.


I think we'll see if Gettleman separates himself from Hurney or not come draft time. That is when his scouting background should show over Hurney's

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:53 PM

Great thread OP, and I agree with you about Gettleman somewhat. I'm going to wait to see how some of these pieces workout on the field, and some of the moves next offseason before I crown Gettleman.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:54 PM

Hurney, is that you?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:54 PM

Very good posting.
Most fans won't agree with any of it, out of their blind hatred for hurney.
They all did the same with fox too.

Hurney was one of the best at getting under the cap with room to sign key free agents.

They ONLY difference i see, is that Gettleman is a football guy. Which is a huge plus for him, as he's going to have his own opinion (a good one knowing his track record), on players other than what the scouts are telling him.




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