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#51 TheRumGone

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:04 PM

P4L what do you think the Syracuse QB workout was all about? I think smokescreen is ridiculous. Teams know we have a franchise QB and that guy is projected to be a 1st/2nd round talent.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:08 PM

P4L what do you think the Syracuse QB workout was all about? I think smokescreen is ridiculous. Teams know we have a franchise QB and that guy is projected to be a 1st/2nd round talent.

Is this a trap lol? Honestly did not know about it until now, covering all of our bases I suppose if he happen's to be far and away BPA and falls to the 4th or something.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:13 PM

Gettleman has done a fine job so far but let's not get carried away. Let's see what else he has up his sleave.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:13 PM

whole lot of yelling to start off the thread and a whole lot of words and probably a whole lot of unnecessary research.

hurney would have spent more money on individual contracts and would have made cap room by extending players and/or pushing back money to later years rather than shorten them.

hurney also would have paid munnerlynn more and would have made extending greg hardy one of the top priorities, and its doubtful he would have let gamble go. hurney also wouldn't have been this active because there's no way he would've freed up the money gettleman.

so go ahead and keep on with this delusion that hurney is no different than gettleman and stressing yourself out unnecessarily. meanwhile I'll be sitting here with the family chilling out and not stressed and happy and glad that we don't have hurney as GM signing ridiculous contracts and have now a GM who can get the job done without mortgaging the future.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:19 PM

whole lot of yelling to start off the thread and a whole lot of words and probably a whole lot of unnecessary research.

hurney would have spent more money on individual contracts and would have made cap room by extending players and/or pushing back money to later years rather than shorten them.

hurney also would have paid munnerlynn more and would have made extending greg hardy one of the top priorities, and its doubtful he would have let gamble go. hurney also wouldn't have been this active because there's no way he would've freed up the money gettleman.

so go ahead and keep on with this delusion that hurney is no different than gettleman and stressing yourself out unnecessarily. meanwhile I'll be sitting here with the family chilling out and not stressed and happy and glad that we don't have hurney as GM signing ridiculous contracts and have now a GM who can get the job done without mortgaging the future.


This post cofirms that I failed miserably at conveying my thoughts. Was never a dig at Gettleman nor the heap of praise upon Hurney some interpreting it to be.

Heres a more simplistic way of saying what I tried to in that wall of text:
Gettleman is doing good so far..no moves I personally could not imagine Hurney making. I do believe Gettleman has the experience and expertise to smoke Hurney in the long run but hard for me to fathom why some think he's the Cam Newton of GM'S in roughly 2 months time.

Guess I am jaded. I was pumped about Clausen when we drafted him and I was pumped about Rivera when we hired him,now I am more cautiously optimistic.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:24 PM

This post cofirms that I failed miserably at conveying my thoughts. Was never a dig at Gettleman nor the heap of praise upon Hurney some interpreting it to be.

Heres a more simplistic way of saying what I tried to in that wall of text:
Gettleman is doing good so far..no moves I personally could not imagine Hurney making. I do believe Gettleman has the experience and expertise to smoke Hurney in the long run but hard for me to fathom why some think he's the Cam Newton of GM'S in roughly 2 months time.


Some people take the TL:DR to heart. I knew what you were trying to say, Hurney was just such a fugtard people reacted that way.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:28 PM

Hurney was beyond bad as a GM and should been got canned, but i do agree with the OP as far as sitting back and waiting to see what he does first before i crown him as the best GM ever.what he does next offseason will really show where his talent is.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:36 PM

Some day when you are snowed-in or home with the flu, search the forum for "Hurney is a cap guru", "Hurney is one of the best in the league managing the cap", or something of the like.

You'll have the time of your life and be feeling better in no time.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:39 PM

Some day when you are snowed-in or home with the flu, search the forum for "Hurney is a cap guru", "Hurney is one of the best in the league managing the cap", or something of the like.

You'll have the time of your life and be feeling better in no time.


I swear I did just that, and the first thread that comes on google is this. Classic.

or at least step down to a salary cap guru again.

This team really could use a firm authoritative figure at G.M. with a better pedigree of football knowledge. This team as a whole is lacking leadership in a major way. I understand the big cat likes to stay out of the limelight and I am totally ok and actually prefer that as well.

Hurney has caused major damage to this team by sacrificing the future with the trade for Everette Brown and now the one for A.E.

I didnt mind the trade up for Otah because we really were in the "win now" mind state at that point.

Things have since gone down hill and as Mr. Scott eluded to earlier we should have gotten rid of Fox this year. Hurney either didnt have the power, the balls,foresight, or some combination of these to pull the trigger.

I have lost faith in him as a G.M and his ability to properly handle our drafts.

We started to clean house with the players this year, now need to finish the job by cleaning out the front office



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:09 PM

First of all Rob Rogers the cap guy who at the very least assisted in setting these contracts up helped Gettleman navigate them. Fans on this message board called the moves that he made in advance, because they were no brainers.

How can you say these names he brought in are light years ahead of what Hurney looked for??

I agree with your bolded part.


I'm not attacking your post. I'm just providing my 2 cents much like yourself. However, the reason the new guys brought in are light years ahead is because the people we have signed have either had some success or experience to share. A quick search of most of our recent free agents are a hodge podge of nobodies that were cheap and seemingly just to pacify fans because they were areas of need. I'm not all that mad at hurney or excited a out gettelman. I guess my point is this is what we have and I can relate with this guy because he made the moves most of us wanted made. In the past too many fa periods passed with unfulfilled wishes. Lets just agree to support our new GM until he gives us reason not to.


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